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^brilliant! LOL

Meanwhile, back here in dear old Blighty, a very worrying development. My niece, who is visiting for the weekend, has just seen something on her Facebook thingy; a report that a leaked government document has been seen which states that Boris and the boffins are to order the closure of all pubs in the U.K.

f**k meAngry the closure of my beloved local? What has the world come to?

One of two courses of action seem to me to be sensible in such dire circumstances.

1. Get out my old, hole ridden, Che Guevara t-shirt, beret, and kickstart the glorious revolution
2. Go down to The Prince of Wales and advise the landlady, with my senior leader in government hat on, to immediately reclassify her premises as a “community hub”, or “local farming collective premises”. Anything other than a boozer.

Bloody hell. This is now becoming acutely serious. I am, therefore, off down the road immediately, whilst I still canOuch
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Was to the supermarket yesterday, no shortages. The Italian government got this right probably, they promised food stores and supermarkets remain open and well supplied. People seem to accept that here.
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But all joking aside, I have 2 very elderly in laws, 1 of whom has chronic long term COPD and whilst they seem pretty relaxed, my dear wife (and I) do have real anxieties about them. I guess this maybe something that is true of many of us here.

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

All the loo roll gone in the local supermarkets but plenty of kitchen roll and boxes of tissues! either of those are infinitely better to blow your nose on (and apparently, a runny nose is not something that happens with this virus!) so I have no idea what people are doing or planning on doing with it (apart from the obvious which its already been said, shouldn't occur with any more frequency than normal!

We are entering what social scientists describe as the “mass sh*tting oneself” phase of a pandemic. In such circumstances, I suppose a bit of extra bog roll might come in handy.
 

Hmm yes, I suppose its a bit of a Mexican wave of hysteria induced IBSWink

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

All the loo roll gone in the local supermarkets but plenty of kitchen roll and boxes of tissues! either of those are infinitely better to blow your nose on (and apparently, a runny nose is not something that happens with this virus!) so I have no idea what people are doing or planning on doing with it (apart from the obvious which its already been said, shouldn't occur with any more frequency than normal!

We are entering what social scientists describe as the “mass sh*tting oneself” phase of a pandemic. In such circumstances, I suppose a bit of extra bog roll might come in handy.

Hehe!! LOL
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

All the loo roll gone in the local supermarkets but plenty of kitchen roll and boxes of tissues! either of those are infinitely better to blow your nose on (and apparently, a runny nose is not something that happens with this virus!) so I have no idea what people are doing or planning on doing with it (apart from the obvious which its already been said, shouldn't occur with any more frequency than normal!

We are entering what social scientists describe as the “mass sh*tting oneself” phase of a pandemic. In such circumstances, I suppose a bit of extra bog roll might come in handy.
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All the loo roll gone in the local supermarkets but plenty of kitchen roll and boxes of tissues! either of those are infinitely better to blow your nose on (and apparently, a runny nose is not something that happens with this virus!) so I have no idea what people are doing or planning on doing with it (apart from the obvious which its already been said, shouldn't occur with any more frequency than normal!

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Toilet paper will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no toilet paper.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Just been to our local supermarket, the hordes descended earlier today and cleaned it out of most of the fresh food that doesn't keep for long. I don't understand.
 
Most of the fresh veg and salad available in supermarkets comes from Spain which has very recently gone into lockdown.. So no out of season courgettes, Peppers, Salad leaves, lettuce, strawberries etc etc.. Tomatoes mostly coming from Holland at the moment and early UK ones will kick in soon.. and a bit of salad etc may come in from other sectors but unless you are growing your own I don't think you'll be seeing a Little Gem Cos lettuce for quite some time!Wink

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This thing is going to be known as the Toilet Paper Famine of 2020.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Such a bummer. I’ve stopped French-kissing strangers on the sidewalk..which was one of my favourite things about the day
You and Trump both.  LOL
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Boris Johnson's politics is criminal

(This is an Italian article, that I have translated with gogle)

Hundreds of members of the BRITISH scientific community have sent two open letters to the UK Government, expressing strong concern about the approach taken against the spread of Coronavirus in the country. In a letter, 198 academics in mathematics and science called for urgent measures of social distancing, calling the government's strategy of developing herd immunity an option that "does not seem viable". In another letter, 164 behavioural scientists questioned Downing Street's contention that if drastic measures are imposed on the public too soon, they will eventually return to previous behaviour. 

So far the UK government has refused to take social initiatives, such as closing schools or even closing the nation like other European countries, advising self-isolation for anyone showing symptoms of Coronavirus. For the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, measures against the spread of Coronavirus are useless. To avoid contagion, the development of 'herd immunity' would be sufficient. Herd immunity occurs when a large number of people are immunized and or vaccinated, if there is a vaccine, against an infection. In the case of the current virus there is still no vaccine and when there will be it will be necessary to assess the effectiveness of the vaccine on people. If the vaccine works, all vaccinated people will act as a barrier to the spread of the infection. Boris Johnson's recipe is considered ruthless by many epidemiologists and unable to stem the pandemic. 

Walter Ricciardi, a consultant to the Ministry of Health and a member of the Committee of Civil Protection Experts, points out that without a vaccine immunity is not certain and that in the UK the decision taken in an attempt to block Coronavirus is not ethical. Johnson's exhortation is to listen to his epidemiologists. ""I think we'll see more specific therapy than a vaccine first. It is absolutely unethical to accept that people get sick in order to create an immunity of flocks which is not even safe; because it is a new virus and there are still no scientific confirmations on a lasting immunity after the disease. Those who have been infected could also take it back as far as we know at the moment." Walter Ricciardi, in an interview with Repubblica, specifies how: "Our Government has received all the indications of the scientific community, which the English one is not doing. Yet they have epidemiologists from imperial College London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and a journal like Lancet. They would be top-notch public health advisers who are obviously ignoring them.' The United Kingdom, Ricciardi points out, in this way "runs the risk of being invested more violently than the others and above all can become the area that keeps the infection alive and latent, when others have already managed to contain it. Thus it becomes what no one would want to be considered: the aor of the world." 
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Just been to our local supermarket, the hordes descended earlier today and cleaned it out of most of the fresh food that doesn't keep for long. I don't understand.

Pyschologi, when people get scared the think with reptile brain, later when the get home the realise they can't eat 50 tormatos, but too late Confused  
 


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Just been to our local supermarket, the hordes descended earlier today and cleaned it out of most of the fresh food that doesn't keep for long. I don't understand.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I stopped watching the news because I got tired of the endless discussion about CV19. Enoughalready. I get it. I won't go to anywhere where there's a lot of people if I can help it. In some cases though I don't have a choice like going shopping. I've never before been paranoid about going to the grocery store. Not good.

Listen, I understand the gravity of the situation but I think maybe the media might be going a bit overboard. 


It does seem overboard across the board. But, what can the media report on that isn't affected by covid-19? Business? Politics? Sports? Entertainment? Travel? Nope. I did look on my CNN app and the Style section was the only one to lead with a non-coronavirus story, "How innovative design is changing the sex tech industry".

My dear chap, please do start a separate thread providing details of the sex tech industry!
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I stopped watching the news because I got tired of the endless discussion about CV19. Enoughalready. I get it. I won't go to anywhere where there's a lot of people if I can help it. In some cases though I don't have a choice like going shopping. I've never before been paranoid about going to the grocery store. Not good.

Listen, I understand the gravity of the situation but I think maybe the media might be going a bit overboard. 


It does seem overboard across the board. But, what can the media report on that isn't affected by covid-19? Business? Politics? Sports? Entertainment? Travel? Nope. I did look on my CNN app and the Style section was the only one to lead with a non-coronavirus story, "How innovative design is changing the sex tech industry".
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Such a bummer. I’ve stopped French-kissing strangers on the sidewalk..which was one of my favourite things about the day


No silly little flu is gonna stop me from doing that!
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I cannot explain the rage for toilet paper, which has infected NL likewise. Maybe anticipating Noro-20? EVen then it's strange because the likes of imodium are still easy to obtain.

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