Should the Beach Boys be considered Proto?

Svetonio wrote: SteveG wrote: Interrstingly, website Prog Rock.Com has it's own 'proto' like catogry called "Progressive Roots" and lists their following top 5 from the oldest to the newest as such: 1. Pet Sounds-Beach Boys 2. Good Vibrations-Beach Boys 3. Surrealistic Pillow-Jefferson Airplane 4. Sgt. Pepper's-The Beatles 5. Piper At The Gates of Dawn-Pink Floyd No Strawberry Fields Forever / Penny Lane in the top five?!

 

SteveG wrote: Interrstingly, website Prog Rock.Com has it's own 'proto' like catogry called "Progressive Roots" and lists their following top 5 from the oldest to the newest as such: 1. Pet Sounds-Beach Boys 2. Good Vibrations-Beach Boys 3. Surrealistic Pillow-Jefferson Airplane 4. Sgt. Pepper's-The Beatles 5. Piper At The Gates of Dawn-Pink Floyd

SteveG wrote: ^OK, being that it it looks permenant to me. I will comply, but I don't dig the big use of dead space to accompany it. But after seeing yours, I don't that bothers me anymore.

Ok, thanks

Steve please make a signature by using your member control panel instead of writing it beneath your post every single time

^Touché, my friend.






"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."

^Relax Darth, it was all said in fun.





"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."

^It certainly was my comment. You're a bit too convoluted to say something that simple. But I have experienced, though not recorded, Theremins in the past. The first one was cobbled together by a friend from some parts he had gotten from some Eastern Block country. When he first turn it on it worked like a Tesla Coil from Hell shocking everyone that came near it. The next one he made worked better but I listened to it over the phone. That's as close as I wanted to get to it.





"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."

^Only that the limited novelity use of the Tannerin negated the need for more sophiticated studio manipulation that was available at the time that it was recorded, that's all. You are correct in that the engineering of that time could not make a Tannerin sound like a true Theremin which does indeed have true musical and tonal qualities.







"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."


Edited by SteveG - September 16 2014 at 10:21

NYSPORTSFAN wrote: I think we all respect Brian Wilson but they are not proto-prog IMO. Pet Sounds while progressive has hardly has any rock elements, Smile was not released until way after the fact and Smiley Smile is disjointed. Another fact is The Beach Boys relied heavily on another musicians to play their instrumental parts. The comparison to The Beatles fails miserably as they were doing the heavy hitting with... When someone says The Beach Boys are proto-prog please give me a break.

I'm sorry NYSF, but you got a little lost in the suffle, It was never my intention to claim that the Beach Boys were as progressive as the Beatles. Only that Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations have Proto Prog merits of their own and the fact that Pet Sounds in particular had a multi instrumental backing that was more ornate and baroque than anything that the Beatles did up to that point, including Revolver.

It was indeed the catalyst for the Beatles to go with multi instrumental session musician backing on many songs on Sgt. Pepper's, and that to me is enough of an influence.






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Edited by SteveG - September 16 2014 at 10:07

chopper wrote: Well, I'd never heard of a Tannerin  before so I've learnt something new here. To put my two penny worth in here, I feel Les Garcons de la Plage warrant at least a mention in proto-prog for Good Vibrations, Surf's Up and it's columnated ruins, Smile and their influence on The Fabs if nothing else, however I won't lose any sleep if they're not included.

Thanks for the support. I think.