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Posted: August 01 2014 at 12:26

Robert Fripp is not God… But he is a direct descendant of the Lord himself. Thumbs Up

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 10:35

The Doctor wrote:

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Oh please one question:

Which GOD you talked about? I swear R.F cant create World or Trees or Animals or ...He wasnt make Big Bang. He cant

Does god play guitar? Did he compose the music for Lizard? LTIA? Has god provided us with hours upon hours of excellent music? I think not.

EXACTLY.

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 10:33

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Rating RF?! Underrate maybe but overrate..... I dont understand some of members. I saw strange posts these days in PA. One guy said "I hate Yes" and other guy write "Genesis hit me" (in positive attitude) and now "Robert Fripp is overrated". I think some guys come in wrong address!! Maybe some of you dont like Progressive music. Maybe some guys try to show themselves "Different Guys". Who knows.

I know what you mean--but I hate VDGG and usually dive for cover when I say it LOL

---but prog is a big universe and you can't expect to appreciate all of it---but not thinking Fripp is the great and powerful Oz and not liking Yes or Genesis is totally not acceptable Wink

Good point. I dont like many of giants in PA like many members but I cant talk about them negative!! You get my point and I get yours Wink

Thanks.

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 05:27

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The chords don't have to be simple. It's the fact that you use many different chords in a particular way, in a single section or a number of sections, that determines how complicated a piece is in detail. Think "A Saucerful of Secrets". That one is all AA...A (closed with a Bmaj), but that A-section entails so many different major chords that the section is truly complicated in detail.

Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so.

(Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example.

If all chords are simple I don't see complexity here.

Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 01 2014 at 05:31

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 04:06

Dayvenkirq wrote:

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Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so.

(Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example.

if all chords are simple I don't see complexity here

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 04:01

LSDisease wrote:

Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so.

(Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example.

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Posted: August 01 2014 at 03:55

Dayvenkirq wrote:

The chords don't have to be simple. It's the fact that you use many different chords in a particular way, in a single section or a number of sections, that determines how complicated a piece is in detail. Think "A Saucerful of Secrets". That one is all AA...A (closed with a Bmaj), but that A-section entails so many different major chords that the section is truly complicated in detail.

Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so.

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 15:11

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 13:22

Nah - God is an original greaser - with black leathers and a penchant for motorcycles....and I have proof - Just read your bible (Old Testament) It tells us about one of his head boys on earth.....
"And the Roar of Moses' TRIUMPH could be heard throughout Israel....."

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:57

God listens to a bit of Goth every now and then on the sly (so I've heard).

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:55

LSDisease wrote:

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1) That sounds like a rather vague idea. The complexity of something in a piece depends on what those chords and what those different riffs are like. I was actually speaking of inclusion of different sections that make the format of "Fracture" more complicated.

2) That's another way to achieve complexity.

That's why I said, you can use many different chords and the song still won't be complex cos those chords are simple.

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Both make sense. Can we agree on that at least?

sure, but it proves that Robert Fripp improvised a lot like all of them.

True, but not all the time. Some pieces were composed.

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:53

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^I agree. The last I heard is that God only listens to gospel music. Lame.

...and maybe even a little ugly on the side

[FZ reference]

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:21

^I agree. The last I heard is that God only listens to gospel music. Lame.

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:15

O666 wrote:

Oh please one question:

Which GOD you talked about? I swear R.F cant create World or Trees or Animals or ...He wasnt make Big Bang. He cant

Does god play guitar? Did he compose the music for Lizard? LTIA? Has god provided us with hours upon hours of excellent music? I think not.

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 12:10

I know what you mean--but I hate VDGG and usually dive for cover when I say it LOL

---but prog is a big universe and you can't expect to appreciate all of it---but not thinking Fripp is the great and powerful Oz and not liking Yes or Genesis is totally not acceptable Wink

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 11:59

Dayvenkir

Both make sense. Can we agree on that at least? [/QUOTE wrote:

sure, but it proves that Robert Fripp improvised a lot like all of them

sure, but it proves that Robert Fripp improvised a lot like all of them

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 11:57

Dayvenkirq wrote:

1) That sounds like a rather vague idea. The complexity of something in a piece depends on what those chords and what those different riffs are like. I was actually speaking of inclusion of different sections that make the format of "Fracture" more complicated.

2) That's another way to achieve complexity.

that's why I said, you can use many different chords and the song still won't be complex cos those chords are simple.

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Posted: July 31 2014 at 10:22

Be honest my friend. I dont want fight for nothing. Oh please one question:

Which GOD you talked about? I swear R.F cant create World or Trees or Animals or ...He wasnt make Big Bang. He cant .....

I read this thread dude. believe me this isnt good way. Why you think know about me? Are You know me? Are You know someone that know me? Maybe you think you are GOD and know everything . I dont care what you think about me. This is your post and this about R.F not me. Wink

Try to be relax and respect to other opinions. I dont have personal problem with you. I just wrote my opinion. I dont think accuse others is fair.

Edited by O666 - July 31 2014 at 10:24

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Posted: July 30 2014 at 17:30

O666 wrote:

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My original post said. Is Robert Fripp overrated? Not Robert Fripp is overrated. Get your facts straight, dude!

You answer your question by this question! Your opinion is very clear and I dont want to explain your opinion for you!! You talked about your anger very clear. Please DUDE! you must get your facts straight not me. Its very easy to say "I hate X" or "I dont like Y" without facts!! I think you get your answer from other guys and I dont want to waste your and my and others time. Wink

The only reason why I said what I said that was because you clearly forgot to read the thread Wink

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Posted: July 30 2014 at 16:10

I assume the original question means overrated in general since it does not refer specifically to his guitar playing, band works, or his solo albums.

I think we all tend to overrate our favorite musical heroes...just a little.

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