The Year of Punk!

Logan wrote: Hercules wrote: Logan wrote: Hercules, how many of the albums in the list have you actually heard?   All but Archaia, Dionne Bregent, Lard Free, Artcane and Conventum, but mostly only once except Bowie, Univers Zero, Klaus Schulze, Popol Vuh and VDGG. Heard those plenty but they're just not to my taste.   Okay, thanks for answering.  You've heard a lot of this.  Despite this covering a range of music I love, sharing similar tastes to the OP, and having got some recommendations from the OP in the past on ones here which gives me greater knowledge of the music, I haven't heard at  least two of these albums at all that I know of: The Francis Lai album and the Oriental Wind album.  And two of these albums are fairly recent additions to my collection: The Leprino and Clivage ones. Your knowledge of progressive music under PA's umbrella that you don't care for is probably much better than my knowledge of music that I don't care for (say, my knowledge of Prog metal albums and Neo Prog is very limited, though I've sampled a fair amount).  That said, I didn't really get deeply into such stuff until this past decade.  Before that I only knew Gryphon, Focus, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Camel, Rush and a few other pretty big names (plus various stuff in Prog Electronic and a little in JRF because I was into that before this big Prog phase).  I did assume that you wouldn't have listened to more than perhaps a  few of these albums as most of these are not well-known.

Logan wrote: I haven't heard at  least two of these albums at all that I know of: The Francis Lai album and the Oriental Wind album.

Hercules wrote: Logan wrote: Hercules, how many of the albums in the list have you actually heard?   All but Archaia, Dionne Bregent, Lard Free, Artcane and Conventum, but mostly only once except Bowie, Univers Zero, Klaus Schulze, Popol Vuh and VDGG. Heard those plenty but they're just not to my taste.

Okay, thanks for answering.  You've heard a lot of this.  Despite this covering a range of music I love, sharing similar tastes to the OP, and having got some recommendations from the OP in the past on ones here which gives me greater knowledge of the music, I haven't heard at  least two of these albums at all that I know of: The Francis Lai album and the Oriental Wind album.  And two of these albums are fairly recent additions to my collection: The Leprino and Clivage ones.

Your knowledge of progressive music under PA's umbrella that you don't care for is probably much better than my knowledge of music that I don't care for (say, my knowledge of Prog metal albums and Neo Prog is very limited, though I've sampled a fair amount).  That said, I didn't really get deeply into such stuff until this past decade.  Before that I only knew Gryphon, Focus, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Camel, Rush and a few other pretty big names (plus various stuff in Prog Electronic and a little in JRF because I was into that before this big Prog phase). 

I did assume that you wouldn't have listened to more than perhaps a  few of these albums as most of these are not well-known.


Edited by Logan - October 18 2012 at 14:46

My favourite album in PA that occurred to me without checking my collection from 1977 over the past six months or so might have been this:

4.82 | 3 ratings Sette note in nero [The Psychic] (with Bixio and Tempera)
1977

But, as I said, I love so very much on this list, that I had no problem finding lots of music I could have voted for happily.
My traditional faveourite is the UZ -- that is my favourite Univers Zero album, and one of the, I think, truly great albums in PA.


Edited by Logan - October 18 2012 at 13:04

Kraftwerks TEE in toughest prog year ever

Saperlipopette! wrote: No richardh, its the albums I enjoy from the year of punk, 1977. Never heard of Phos. Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I locate some streams or vids. The Dark Elf wrote: Hercules wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Late 70's prog's got a crap reputation. Especially among proggers. But you're just looking for it in all the wrong places. All the albums here are genuine progressive gems and 1978-79 are really just as amazing. And forget complaining about Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Woods or (heaven help us) Ocean not being here. I just don't like them and as you can see I'm on a completely different mission. I hate practically all things punk (except post-punk and new wave if that counts) and I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero.  No space left for other. But let me know what you prefer if you can't pick a fav among the ones in the poll.   None of the above.   Try Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Wood or Ocean instead! Or Rain Dances, The Geese and the Ghost, A Farewell to Kings, Gone to Earth, Treason. All far better than anything in your list.   "I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero".    Sorry, but I'm equally sure it won't.   I'll second your assessment, Herc. It's not only odd the albums you mentioned are not listed in the poll, it makes the list a choice between several also-rans and ignores superlative albums altogether. Normal people will obviously always prefer crap, so everyman will always think that the most famous or catchiest equals best, so I obviously wasn't thinking about them. Rock journalists are even worse than normal people, and would dismiss this list even faster. Not that they've ever heard more than two or three of the albums included (much like Hercules) About 75% of the albums in the poll are genuinely progressive in the true meaning of the word (the rest are just proggy obscurities I enjoy). Those famous albums I left out are mostly not. Stating that Raindance, Ocean or Geese and the Ghost is more relevant and superlative than Univers Zero's debut or Trance Europe Express is either uninformed or has to do with limited listening abilities.  I said in the opening post I was on a mission where (albums that do nothing for me such as) Animals and Going for the One don't fit in. How much of a problem can that really be?

Normal people?

Saperlipopette! wrote: No richardh, its the albums I enjoy from the year of punk, 1977. Never heard of Phos. Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I locate some streams or vids. The Dark Elf wrote: Hercules wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Late 70's prog's got a crap reputation. Especially among proggers. But you're just looking for it in all the wrong places. All the albums here are genuine progressive gems and 1978-79 are really just as amazing. And forget complaining about Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Woods or (heaven help us) Ocean not being here. I just don't like them and as you can see I'm on a completely different mission. I hate practically all things punk (except post-punk and new wave if that counts) and I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero.  No space left for other. But let me know what you prefer if you can't pick a fav among the ones in the poll.   None of the above.   Try Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Wood or Ocean instead! Or Rain Dances, The Geese and the Ghost, A Farewell to Kings, Gone to Earth, Treason. All far better than anything in your list.   "I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero".    Sorry, but I'm equally sure it won't.   I'll second your assessment, Herc. It's not only odd the albums you mentioned are not listed in the poll, it makes the list a choice between several also-rans and ignores superlative albums altogether. Normal people will obviously always prefer crap, so everyman will always think that the most famous or catchiest equals best, so I obviously wasn't thinking about them. Rock journalists are even worse than normal people, and would dismiss this list even faster. Not that they've ever heard more than two or three of the albums included (much like Hercules) About 75% of the albums in the poll are genuinely progressive in the true meaning of the word (the rest are just proggy obscurities I enjoy). Those famous albums I left out are mostly not. Stating that Raindance, Ocean or Geese and the Ghost is more relevant and superlative than Univers Zero's debut or Trance Europe Express is either uninformed or has to do with limited listening abilities.  I said in the opening post I was on a mission where (albums that do nothing for me such as) Animals and Going for the One don't fit in. How much of a problem can that really be?

cstack3 wrote: I enjoy punk and was a minor part of the rising punk scene in Chicago in the late 1970's.  I witnessed brilliant experiments in melding high-energy prog solo guitar with punk from bands such as the Corrosives.  You had to be there.  David Bowie used to appear at our clubs to check out the acts.    Anyway, Robert Fripp's first experiment in the punk realm, "Exposure," would have been my first choice.

Ya Exposure no doubt.

Edited by tamijo - October 18 2012 at 05:03

The Dark Elf wrote: Hercules wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Late 70's prog's got a crap reputation. Especially among proggers. But you're just looking for it in all the wrong places. All the albums here are genuine progressive gems and 1978-79 are really just as amazing. And forget complaining about Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Woods or (heaven help us) Ocean not being here. I just don't like them and as you can see I'm on a completely different mission. I hate practically all things punk (except post-punk and new wave if that counts) and I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero.  No space left for other. But let me know what you prefer if you can't pick a fav among the ones in the poll.   None of the above.   Try Going for the One, Animals, Songs From the Wood or Ocean instead! Or Rain Dances, The Geese and the Ghost, A Farewell to Kings, Gone to Earth, Treason. All far better than anything in your list.   "I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero".    Sorry, but I'm equally sure it won't.   I'll second your assessment, Herc. It's not only odd the albums you mentioned are not listed in the poll, it makes the list a choice between several also-rans and ignores superlative albums altogether.

I chose Over.  I think it beats out the VDGG offering, although perhaps not by much.  Fingerprince is also a pretty freaking cool album.  As is Low.