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Points: 1708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 13:44
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I, also, would like one star ratings to require a review.  I find it exceptionally rare to hear an album that I would consider one star, and I strongly suspect that a great many of those one star raters (rating only) have never listened to the album..


That's an AWESOME idea!

I've seen people mention the wish for a tool that deletes ratings where a user rates every single album an artist has made with one star, and this is a great idea too. Shouldn't be to hard to program - as a programmer I am thinking the sql code wouldn't be too difficult (if the database uses sql - I have no idea).
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 13:19
Any review system is inherently problematic though, because it is biased in favor of positive reviews and extreme reviews.

It is biased in favor of positive reviews because if I hear one album by a band and I like it, I will seek out the other albums and review all of them. On the other hand, if I don't like it I will not bother to listen to the rest of the discography and so there will be more positive than negative reviews.

We also get more extreme reviews because in general people are only motivated to talk about things they either really like or really dislike. I might want to rave about how great In The Court of the Crimson King is or complain about how ripped off I feel by the Sigur Ros album I bought, but I am less likely to make the effort to review something like Rain Dances by Camel because it is fine, but not outstandingly good or bad.

Since all review systems are biased anyway, I don't think we should worry too much about a few people who don't take the process seriously.
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Points: 36152 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 13:11
I'm interested in ideas, and sharing my own thoughts, even when the concern does not concern me that much.

I rated a lot when M@X brought in that quick rating feature, but part of me still wants ratings to be done away with period.  The places I learn about music the most have no ratings, but instead I look to the professed qualities of the album.

Even though i'm not that interested in PA's album database, of course I do agree that it's quite crappy when people try to manipulate the  rankings/ ratings by rating one 5 stars, then one it's competing with on the list lowly.  A lot of such manipulation is caught and dealt with.  It's common for such people to create multiple accounts. 

I, also, would like one star ratings to require a review.  I find it exceptionally rare to hear an album that I would consider one star, and I strongly suspect that a great many of those one star raters (rating only) have never listened to the album..
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 13:07
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

it must be important enough for you to be having this conversation


Nope.
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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 13:06
Yes the rating abuse sucks big time. But I don't see anything changing about it, there were a lot of discussions about it.
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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:55
it must be important enough for you to be having this conversation
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:53
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

why not contribute in a meaningful way


Because I've seen a million posts complaining about ratings and raters before, and I don't think it's useful to gripe about it. There is a "report abuse" thread for that purpose. Personally, I don't like the ratings system at all and think it should be strictly reviews, but since reviews can only be in English the site owners don't want to lock people out simply because they don't speak the language. I think that is understandable.

I don't really care whether someone rates an album I like with one star. It's not important to me.
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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:51
why not contribute in a meaningful way
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:49
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Trolling much?


Not very much.
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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:47
Trolling much?
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:38
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

The site does not exist to be your little playground..


Yes it does.
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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 12:25
First off.....I realize there is nothing that can be done. There is a type of rater who I can't stand. They like an album and award it a 5 star rating.......this is fine, but then they take it to the next level by rating any competing albums with a one star rating. Grow up and be serious about  what you are doing. The site does not exist to be your little playground. Go ahead and rate your favorites with 5 stars and call it a day. After all if you feel so strongly that an album is only worth 1 star review it and tell us all why. I personally think there should be no 1 star ratings......in other words if you award an album with one star you must review it and tell us why.
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