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Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:28 |
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
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progbethyname wrote:
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I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Hey Marsh. For the most part it's a lovely DVD recording, although during the softer acoustic sessions their is some syllabus issues with LaBrie's mic. He sounds a little bit too breathy on tracks The Silent Man, The spirit Carries on (just the beginning) and Beneath the surface. Other than that. Amazing performance by all, but like AlexDom said Rudess and Myung are a bit buried in the mix, but with a quality home Theater speaker system with a Harmon Kardon Receiver you can clean it up a bit. I tinker. :)
Above all. I'd give it a 4/5. I bought the blue ray 60 page picture booklet edition with the 3 CDs as well and I love it.
Also. My favourite performances were the solos!!! Mangini's drum solo was out cold! Could give Neal Peart a run for his money. Petrucci's solo is this crazy-beautiful floydian inspired piece that will have you feeling pretty satisfied if you really dug The Count Of Tuscony. :) Rudess. He is the wizard. Nuff said. You'll love it.
No Myung solo. DT still do a great job of keeping a quality bass player in the god dame basement. :( | It turned out very well I thought too. LaBrie did sound quite good, sure a little breathy, but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Mangini is unearthly on the drums, man was he fun to watch. Myung was a little beneath it all sure, but it was still much better than the studio album. Rudess is a wizard too, as you say. I was glad to see more standard piano from him. I was not much of a fan of the song Outcry until I watched the one in this DVD. The breakdown at the end was amazing, as well as all the other solos and improvs. This one might be my favorite DT live album. The only disappointment was that the tracks they played were nearly the same as what they played back when I saw them in 2011. But with Mangini only having just joined, I guess its understandable that he didn't have their whole discography down yet. Still, great execution, and the live versions do sound better than the studio versions of the songs. |
Glad you enjoyed it. Ummmmm favourite live DVD though??? Have you seen THE SCORE: 20th Ann at RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK IN 2006?? For me, that is the best and no other DT live performance holds a candle to that show. :) Everyone gets on LaBRie just line ZUMCRAIG did above, but on that show in 2006 he absolutely nails it! Gotta see it if you haven't already. It's available on cd too. :)
Anyway. Luna is great. What's your favourite song on it? I actually like the little tune ups they did on metropolis other than the solos of course. :) | I'm sure if I watched Score again, my thoughts might change. LaBrie was definitely at his best on that one, but I really just think I'm liking Dream Theater better with Mangini instead of Portnoy. We'll see if this preference holds up in the long term, but those are my current thoughts after watching this DVD. I like where Rudess seems to be going with his keyboarding style lately. There were some very fine moments in each DVD, although yes, only one had a live orchestra while the other one merely had a string quartet. |
You see, for me, watching and hearing it 5.1 makes all the difference in the world. Forget that PCM stereo crap.
Yeah. If you gotta buddy who has a decent sound system run the DVD over to his /her place and watch it again. LaBrie is on his game man. Never heard him sound better. :)
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Posted: December 16 2013 at 01:15 |
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Another quick question. Has a anyone, other than myself, properly listened to 5.1 audio mix of the new DT record with a decent sound system?? If so. What did you think? Also. Do you think Richard C's Audio mix was good?
Love to hear people's thoughts hear. I also wouldn't mind feedback on the Paul Northfield audio mix for Systematic Chaos if anyone has that? I thought it was well done. Not overly bright. :)
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While I have the 5.1 versions for Systematic Chaos, as well as their last two albums, I do not have the proper equipment to enjoy it.
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Posted: December 16 2013 at 01:14 |
progbethyname wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Hey Marsh. For the most part it's a lovely DVD recording, although during the softer acoustic sessions their is some syllabus issues with LaBrie's mic. He sounds a little bit too breathy on tracks The Silent Man, The spirit Carries on (just the beginning) and Beneath the surface. Other than that. Amazing performance by all, but like AlexDom said Rudess and Myung are a bit buried in the mix, but with a quality home Theater speaker system with a Harmon Kardon Receiver you can clean it up a bit. I tinker. :)
Above all. I'd give it a 4/5. I bought the blue ray 60 page picture booklet edition with the 3 CDs as well and I love it.
Also. My favourite performances were the solos!!! Mangini's drum solo was out cold! Could give Neal Peart a run for his money. Petrucci's solo is this crazy-beautiful floydian inspired piece that will have you feeling pretty satisfied if you really dug The Count Of Tuscony. :) Rudess. He is the wizard. Nuff said. You'll love it.
No Myung solo. DT still do a great job of keeping a quality bass player in the god dame basement. :( | It turned out very well I thought too. LaBrie did sound quite good, sure a little breathy, but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Mangini is unearthly on the drums, man was he fun to watch. Myung was a little beneath it all sure, but it was still much better than the studio album. Rudess is a wizard too, as you say. I was glad to see more standard piano from him. I was not much of a fan of the song Outcry until I watched the one in this DVD. The breakdown at the end was amazing, as well as all the other solos and improvs. This one might be my favorite DT live album. The only disappointment was that the tracks they played were nearly the same as what they played back when I saw them in 2011. But with Mangini only having just joined, I guess its understandable that he didn't have their whole discography down yet. Still, great execution, and the live versions do sound better than the studio versions of the songs. |
Glad you enjoyed it. Ummmmm favourite live DVD though??? Have you seen THE SCORE: 20th Ann at RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK IN 2006?? For me, that is the best and no other DT live performance holds a candle to that show. :) Everyone gets on LaBRie just line ZUMCRAIG did above, but on that show in 2006 he absolutely nails it! Gotta see it if you haven't already. It's available on cd too. :)
Anyway. Luna is great. What's your favourite song on it? I actually like the little tune ups they did on metropolis other than the solos of course. :) |
I'm sure if I watched Score again, my thoughts might change. LaBrie was definitely at his best on that one, but I really just think I'm liking Dream Theater better with Mangini instead of Portnoy. We'll see if this preference holds up in the long term, but those are my current thoughts after watching this DVD. I like where Rudess seems to be going with his keyboarding style lately. There were some very fine moments in each DVD, although yes, only one had a live orchestra while the other one merely had a string quartet.
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 22:36 |
progbethyname wrote:
Another quick question. Has a anyone, other than myself, properly listened to 5.1 audio mix of the new DT record with a decent sound system?? If so. What did you think? Also. Do you think Richard C's Audio mix was good?
Love to hear people's thoughts hear. I also wouldn't mind feedback on the Paul Northfield audio mix for Systematic Chaos if anyone has that? I thought it was well done. Not overly bright. :)
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The 5.1 Mix of their new album is incredible, vastly superior to the CD version. I hate to even listen to the CD version after listening to that 5.1 Mix. For example much of the cymbal work from Mangini is buried in the CD mix, but in the 5.1 he comes out. All the instrumentalists do period, but it is much better.
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 22:29 |
I agree Score does sound better, need to release that one on blu ray though. Although I still feel this is Labrie's best performance on any live release. When he sang Surrounded, WOW!!! I was transported back to Images and Words. The performance on that song was unbelievable.
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 22:29 |
Another quick question. Has a anyone, other than myself, properly listened to 5.1 audio mix of the new DT record with a decent sound system?? If so. What did you think? Also. Do you think Richard C's Audio mix was good?
Love to hear people's thoughts hear. I also wouldn't mind feedback on the Paul Northfield audio mix for Systematic Chaos if anyone has that? I thought it was well done. Not overly bright. :)
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 22:20 |
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Hey Marsh. For the most part it's a lovely DVD recording, although during the softer acoustic sessions their is some syllabus issues with LaBrie's mic. He sounds a little bit too breathy on tracks The Silent Man, The spirit Carries on (just the beginning) and Beneath the surface. Other than that. Amazing performance by all, but like AlexDom said Rudess and Myung are a bit buried in the mix, but with a quality home Theater speaker system with a Harmon Kardon Receiver you can clean it up a bit. I tinker. :)
Above all. I'd give it a 4/5. I bought the blue ray 60 page picture booklet edition with the 3 CDs as well and I love it.
Also. My favourite performances were the solos!!! Mangini's drum solo was out cold! Could give Neal Peart a run for his money. Petrucci's solo is this crazy-beautiful floydian inspired piece that will have you feeling pretty satisfied if you really dug The Count Of Tuscony. :) Rudess. He is the wizard. Nuff said. You'll love it.
No Myung solo. DT still do a great job of keeping a quality bass player in the god dame basement. :( | It turned out very well I thought too. LaBrie did sound quite good, sure a little breathy, but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Mangini is unearthly on the drums, man was he fun to watch. Myung was a little beneath it all sure, but it was still much better than the studio album. Rudess is a wizard too, as you say. I was glad to see more standard piano from him. I was not much of a fan of the song Outcry until I watched the one in this DVD. The breakdown at the end was amazing, as well as all the other solos and improvs. This one might be my favorite DT live album. The only disappointment was that the tracks they played were nearly the same as what they played back when I saw them in 2011. But with Mangini only having just joined, I guess its understandable that he didn't have their whole discography down yet. Still, great execution, and the live versions do sound better than the studio versions of the songs. |
Glad you enjoyed it. Ummmmm favourite live DVD though??? Have you seen THE SCORE: 20th Ann at RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK IN 2006?? For me, that is the best and no other DT live performance holds a candle to that show. :) Everyone gets on LaBRie just line ZUMCRAIG did above, but on that show in 2006 he absolutely nails it! Gotta see it if you haven't already. It's available on cd too. :)
Anyway. Luna is great. What's your favourite song on it? I actually like the little tune ups they did on metropolis other than the solos of course. :)
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 21:16 |
progbethyname wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Hey Marsh. For the most part it's a lovely DVD recording, although during the softer acoustic sessions their is some syllabus issues with LaBrie's mic. He sounds a little bit too breathy on tracks The Silent Man, The spirit Carries on (just the beginning) and Beneath the surface. Other than that. Amazing performance by all, but like AlexDom said Rudess and Myung are a bit buried in the mix, but with a quality home Theater speaker system with a Harmon Kardon Receiver you can clean it up a bit. I tinker. :)
Above all. I'd give it a 4/5. I bought the blue ray 60 page picture booklet edition with the 3 CDs as well and I love it.
Also. My favourite performances were the solos!!! Mangini's drum solo was out cold! Could give Neal Peart a run for his money. Petrucci's solo is this crazy-beautiful floydian inspired piece that will have you feeling pretty satisfied if you really dug The Count Of Tuscony. :) Rudess. He is the wizard. Nuff said. You'll love it.
No Myung solo. DT still do a great job of keeping a quality bass player in the god dame basement. :( |
It turned out very well I thought too. LaBrie did sound quite good, sure a little breathy, but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Mangini is unearthly on the drums, man was he fun to watch. Myung was a little beneath it all sure, but it was still much better than the studio album. Rudess is a wizard too, as you say. I was glad to see more standard piano from him. I was not much of a fan of the song Outcry until I watched the one in this DVD. The breakdown at the end was amazing, as well as all the other solos and improvs. This one might be my favorite DT live album. The only disappointment was that the tracks they played were nearly the same as what they played back when I saw them in 2011. But with Mangini only having just joined, I guess its understandable that he didn't have their whole discography down yet. Still, great execution, and the live versions do sound better than the studio versions of the songs.
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Posted: December 15 2013 at 19:03 |
AlexDOM wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?
I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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I thought it was great, however Rudess and Myung should be turned up in the mix. Myung is mixed in the sound way too low. That's not a surprise though. But Labrie is stunning on this live rendition. All the members are very enthusiastic. Mangini is just magical. So much passion and energy. Songs from Dramatic Turn of Events sound much better on this release than the album. Overall it was solid, blu ray was very crisp and sound was good other than my first complaint. I have to say Surrounded sounds amazing on this, best Labrie live version I've heard yet!
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JLB is almost unlistenable on this DVD. he is so out of tune and growling. he's definitely the weak link in this band along with the horrible mix. i feel so bad for myong. he's obviously playing fast difficult parts non stop live and on album, but he's never heard! it's a real travesty.
mangini may just be the greatest drummer of all time. his playing is effortless and absolutely compelling. it's incredible.
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Posted: December 14 2013 at 09:30 |
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Hey Marsh. For the most part it's a lovely DVD recording, although during the softer acoustic sessions their is some syllabus issues with LaBrie's mic. He sounds a little bit too breathy on tracks The Silent Man, The spirit Carries on (just the beginning) and Beneath the surface. Other than that. Amazing performance by all, but like AlexDom said Rudess and Myung are a bit buried in the mix, but with a quality home Theater speaker system with a Harmon Kardon Receiver you can clean it up a bit. I tinker. :)
Above all. I'd give it a 4/5. I bought the blue ray 60 page picture booklet edition with the 3 CDs as well and I love it.
Also. My favourite performances were the solos!!! Mangini's drum solo was out cold! Could give Neal Peart a run for his money. Petrucci's solo is this crazy-beautiful floydian inspired piece that will have you feeling pretty satisfied if you really dug The Count Of Tuscony. :) Rudess. He is the wizard. Nuff said. You'll love it.
No Myung solo. DT still do a great job of keeping a quality bass player in the god dame basement. :(
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Posted: December 13 2013 at 22:20 |
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?
I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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I thought it was great, however Rudess and Myung should be turned up in the mix. Myung is mixed in the sound way too low. That's not a surprise though. But Labrie is stunning on this live rendition. All the members are very enthusiastic. Mangini is just magical. So much passion and energy. Songs from Dramatic Turn of Events sound much better on this release than the album. Overall it was solid, blu ray was very crisp and sound was good other than my first complaint. I have to say Surrounded sounds amazing on this, best Labrie live version I've heard yet!
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Posted: December 13 2013 at 19:25 |
I'll be getting Live at Luna Park here in the mail in the next week. Has anyone else watched or listened to this live album? What do you think?
I'll wait until I watch it before I come back to this thread.
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Posted: October 31 2013 at 13:18 |
It has settled into a middle spot for me. Behind BC&SL but ahead of the last one, by a few spots. I am not sure what it is, the music is good, really good....I do miss Portnoy I have to say, but I think most of it has to be I am not liking much the vocals by Labrie. The breathy vocals can be too much......seems like he is holding back, does not want to sound like he does on SC or BC&SL. I don't know.....but I am looking forward to a live show if they hit Seattle next year. I think some of these songs will play live well......I have to say the epic does not captivate me that much either. Have not played it in about 2 weeks........maybe will spin it this weekend.
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Posted: October 31 2013 at 10:53 |
i`m not to sure if the last two album to me seem to. be okish. which i belive is beacuse mike. isn`t there playin`.
don`t get me wrong there still a great band.
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 11:21 |
Still enjoying the crap out if the new record. It's getting a very strong consideration for album of the year for me (2013)
You cannot deny the quality musicianship on this album. Great melody too with strong choruses making every song on the album highly listenable& enjoyable. Very pleased and it's going on my DT top 5 studio album list of all time.
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 21:11 |
At last I got it... unfortunatley I have to listen to it more to give an opinion. I might end up likind it well enough... at least more than "A Dramatic Turn of Events"... Though I don't know if more than "Black Clouds".
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 13:34 |
I'm surprised to see so many putting it among their favourites; personally, I'd rank it ninth of their twelve albums, ahead of BC&SL, FII, and the debut, but behind the rest. While all the songs on DT are at least pretty good, there aren't really any that stand out or that I'd put among their best, and overall I sort of feel like they were just going through the motions with this one.
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 09:42 |
I've been listening to it daily and it's definitely a Top 5 for me along with I & W, Met 2, 6DOIT, and Awake. This is coming from a 20 year plus fan. I'm extremely impressed with what I have heard and I love the direction they have been taking with the last two releases. I feel more passion and songwriting coming from the band, even more so than on ADTOE, passion that had been almost lost on SC & BC&SL.
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 08:36 |
A good 1st impression for me. I will be giving it additional listens.
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