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Poll Question: Which is the worst Dream Theater album ?
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35 [25.18%]
4 [2.88%]
5 [3.60%]
20 [14.39%]
6 [4.32%]
6 [4.32%]
9 [6.47%]
15 [10.79%]
24 [17.27%]
15 [10.79%]
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aaah, a moral victory, so far, for I&W and Awake, two monumental albums....
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Systematic Chaos here... Although Octavarium was close behind.

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Good that there's no votes for Awake or I&W, my two favourites

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Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

It pains me to see people give crap to the debut and Scenes From A Memory... The worst is Train of Thought, it is the one DT album I truly hate. It makes me realize just why so many people have bad feelings towards the band. It's thoughtless except for a few songs, and there isn't much to explore in it.


If you don't like it then that's that, but IMO all of the songs are quite memorable ... and they grew on me. There's no track on the album that I would want to skip.
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Octavarium, a truly terrable album.
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It pains me to see people give crap to the debut and Scenes From A Memory... The worst is Train of Thought, it is the one DT album I truly hate. It makes me realize just why so many people have bad feelings towards the band. It's thoughtless except for a few songs, and there isn't much to explore in it.
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aside from the debut, i agree with Mr ProgFreak. i enjoy all their albums, i think i only skip tracks twice on FII, the others not really (i do skip Prophets of War on SC)

then again, i havent properly listened to a studio album in a while, been basically listening to their live albums (especially Score!) and the new album.
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^ I really like the debut ... IMO they really haven't put out a bad album yet, you'll see on the chart that I posted that I gave all their albums at least 8/10. The debut simply suffers from a vocalist who doesn't really fit (great effort though) and sub-par production compared to the other albums.
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Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ Dream Theater have proven on their other albums that they are good at balancing their albums (soft/heavy, fast/slow etc.). On this one they wanted to be more heavy, and I really love it. Of course if you don't like metal and are simply tolerating that aspect of their music on their other albums, I can imagine that you don't like the album. But for guys like me, who are metalheads through and through, that album is a really pleasant ride. It's the same with Symphony X's The Odyssey IMO.


As I said, some folks (like you) are into that sort of thing.  I generally am not, hence why Train of Thought is crappy to me.

Musically I'm a very well-rounded person, and I enjoy (not tolerate) metal (still don't take well to the growls though).

I think my favorite Dream Theater albums would go like this:

1. Scenes from a Memory
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Falling Into Infinity

...which I guess says how much of a metalhead I am, but Train of Thought is something I really can't stand (and I rated the beloved Images and Words a two).

Edit: To be fair, I have not heard the debut, which I hear is bad, but I figure nine out of ten albums is enough to render a vote.



Edited by Epignosis - October 04 2009 at 14:58
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im surprised ToT has little votes, considering the people who hate it or ignore it. i voted the debut though, as all their other albums have many great moments

on my iTunes i have a playlist consisting of the best live versions of each song from the debut in the correct order (kind of like When Dream and Day REUnite, but i know better versions of some of the songs. unfortunately, i dont have any other live versions of some other ones)

THAT i'll listen to. i cant stand the production values and the vocals on the debut
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^ Dream Theater have proven on their other albums that they are good at balancing their albums (soft/heavy, fast/slow etc.). On this one they wanted to be more heavy, and I really love it. Of course if you don't like metal and are simply tolerating that aspect of their music on their other albums, I can imagine that you don't like the album. But for guys like me, who are metalheads through and through, that album is a really pleasant ride. It's the same with Symphony X's The Odyssey IMO.
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Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

What?  No votes for the angry mush of sound that is Train of Thought?

Well, let me cast the first groan...


Mush of sound? I think the album is very well produced. I also enjoy listening to it a lot ...




You tech-heads...always thinking of how it's produced.

Train of Thought is a mushy mess in terms of composition.  It's noisy, constantly heavy, lacking dynamics, loaded with double bass pedal, and the guitar soloing is constant shredding.  It's a busy, hectic album that I don't enjoy at all.

I suppose all that appeals to some, but not to me.
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Points: 2537 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 14:37
SDOIT is the worst one for me, all the others are good.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 14:34
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

What?  No votes for the angry mush of sound that is Train of Thought?

Well, let me cast the first groan...


Mush of sound? I think the album is very well produced. I also enjoy listening to it a lot ...


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Gonna go with Octavarium here. I salute them for making an album like this, but aside from the great title track, I've been trying to enjoy this album in vain since its release
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What?  No votes for the angry mush of sound that is Train of Thought?

Well, let me cast the first groan...
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Points: 8321 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 14:02
Would it be mean if I say they're all as bad as each other? Ermm
The only listenable album is Images & Words
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Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Strange to see 3 votes for the deebut, some great music in there...

I believe their weakest moment was FII


I can agree for most of the post..
Great music, but, at least in my opinion, not the best vocalist.
I can't really vote now, since I haven't listened their latest yet, but I strongly tend to vote for Systematic Chaos..


Edited by Luke. J - October 04 2009 at 13:41
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 13:10
It's difficult to vote for which is the worst from a band like Dream Theater(or in other cases, The Flower Kings or the like) since in all of their albums they play really well, however the writing/originality quality tends to vary.

As far as I'm concerned their least original album, and the one that is the farest from sounding like Dream Theater is Octavarium.
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 12:56
It's easily BC&SL for me. Their lyrics & musical cheesiness has never been worse before. Systematic Chaos at least has some solid musical moments.
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