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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:13 |
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^ So?
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GentleGiant
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:10 |
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There are metal bands with progressive elements not progressive bands with metal elements.These feed their roots from heavy metal not from classic progressive rock
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BeGiantForADay
"This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix."
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sleeper
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:09 |
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I said no simply because Opeth are the only band that gets much talk about them, even the Fortress threads have stoped now.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:07 |
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^ of course
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:06 |
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Dean
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:04 |
[QUOTE=laplace] I would've pointed my finger squarely at the crossover and progmetal sections; these are breeding grounds for instantly predictable music, at least from what's represented among 2008 releases...[/QUOTE]
...which are?
...Radiohead's greatest hits, Abbandono Del Tempo E Delle Forme by J'Accuse..!, Tightly Unwound by Pinapple Thief, Selective Memory by Tempano (an excellent band from Venezuela) and Mike Oldfield's Music Of The Spheres (which is crossover-classical album not crossover-prog) and albums by Soniq Theater, Jeremy and Versus X.
...none of which have been exactly 'choking-up' the site recently as far as I recall.
Edited by darqDean - June 21 2008 at 07:05
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What?
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Atavachron
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 07:00 |
 GentleGiant wrote:
This Tech/Extreme (Prog ?) it's NOT progressive rock ,go away to the metal sites
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They don't want it there ... they say it's too progressive. 
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:59 |
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^ but it is progressive metal, a form of rock, which is why it's here.. I don't really see your point
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GentleGiant
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:56 |
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This Tech/Extreme (Prog ?) it's NOT progressive rock ,go away to the metal sites
Edited by GentleGiant - June 21 2008 at 07:00
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BeGiantForADay
"This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix."
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:48 |
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someone_else
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:32 |
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Opeth may yet be called prog, but there is an orange alert threat of pollution by death metal acts which have a total lack of melodic content. An incidental 5/4 or 7/8 time signature, a few 7+ minute songs or a guitar solo played at triple speed don't turn metal into prog.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:23 |
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care to mention a few metal bands you think are progressive..?
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Hercules
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:20 |
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Don't get me wrong - I like Opeth, but how they can be classed as progressive mystifies me. And as for bands like Meshuggah and Dillinger Escape Plan - words fail me.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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dzx
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:02 |
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in the broad spectrum of music they're progressive as in moving forward. certainly prefer that to the myriad of Dream Theatre clones. in any genre you always get the innovators and the copiers
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:26 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:26 |
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no sir! I'm no youngin, been a headbanger since the early 80s and Tech is the most exciting form of it to come along in awhile ..and Death and Tech have little to do with each other, Opeth may be considered 'Death' by some, but the backbone of Tech is Behold the Arctopus, Spastic Ink, Collapsar, Spiral Architect, etc...
Edited by Atavachron - June 21 2008 at 05:29
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:13 |
I'm not a fan of death/extreme/tech/uber prog metal at all. However, I've been on this forum since 2004, and I think that the abundance of discussions on this type of music, is an indicator that there must be more younger members than ever before. I dont like generalising, but I'm fairly confident that this modern tech/death/prog metal appeals predominantly to younger prog fans.
Now, this is a good thing!! It keeps this site alive for a start. The music itself keeps some of the most important basic principles of prog alive (Cert1fied may disagree!) and if old timers like myself want to discuss codpieces and Mellotrons, they are at liberty to do so. We old schoolers know that there is only so many times you can vote on the best Genesis album.
I say, if techno death metal threads get your goat, dont participate, just fight back with as many classic prog threads as you can! 
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:13 |
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I think people are talking about Opeth a lot because they just had a new release that is fairly controversial and they're already a popular band. I don't even remember more than like one or two Opeth threads recently, which is hardly a great annoyance to me. And I have to agree with Atavachron, it's better than another mostly useless/rehash thread that will actively annoy me to see rather than one I can skip out of lack of interest. ;-)
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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JayDee
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:06 |
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Incidentally, there also has been a lot of oppositions with the genre, that chokes us Tech Extreme metal believers. Classic progressive rock had it's day. We are not in the 1970s anymore.
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