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200 000 homes were affected by a power failure in Melbourne today, one of those including mine. Since the power failure happened about 2 hours before I planned to start playing (the power came back 5 and a half  hours after it cut out), I couldn't play electric. I got out the classical guitar for about 2 hours, and learnt to play the intro to Diary Of A Madman-Ozzy Osbourne. That song features some of the best guitar work Randy Rhoads ever did IMO. I nailed that in about 20mins, and after that, set to work on just improvised finger picking stuff, and two handed tapping on the low E  and A stringsCool, which kinda hurts for a little while, but you gradually get used to it.

Well It's 10:50pm here, I've been on the forums and msn since 8:30, might set to work on electric at 11:30, and play till about 2am, or until I get tired I guess.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2008 at 12:02
My friend is asking for my recording too. I really need to arse myself into doing them or he'll never ask me again. It's just so hard to get anythign done nowadays Always so busy, and yet, you never really are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2008 at 05:13
Hey Brandon, are you still in the shred war?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2008 at 00:28
Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Since my computer chooses to work once every 3 days or so, I haven't been able to inform everyone on my progress.

Tommorow I will be going into the studio to record some new stuff, should be fun. I've pretty much been focusing on John Petrucci excercises from his instructional book/cd "Wild Stringdom", and my own songs.
 
Good news, I am getting a new computer sometime this/next week so I will actually report in everyday again.
 
What are the specifications for your new computer going to be?
 
Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Today I couldn't go into the studio but next weekend I should be finishing everything up and maybe putting some stuff on myspace.
 
I'm eagerly waiting to hear itSmile
If I PM my email address to you, can you email the songs to me?
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2008 at 22:33
Today I couldn't go into the studio but next weekend I should be finishing everything up and maybe putting some stuff on myspace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2008 at 16:21

Since my computer chooses to work once every 3 days or so, I haven't been able to inform everyone on my progress.

Tommorow I will be going into the studio to record some new stuff, should be fun. I've pretty much been focusing on John Petrucci excercises from his instructional book/cd "Wild Stringdom", and my own songs.
 
Good news, I am getting a new computer sometime this/next week so I will actually report in everyday again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2008 at 09:08
Well I play for 5 hours yesterday, about 2/3 of which was in the band practice session today.
I was playing some string skipping legato licks in the Soothsayer arrangement, when I get to where I start my solo (our bassist actually gets 64 bars to play a solo in that song as wellSmile).
I've been trying out major/minor add 7 add 9 arpeggios too lately, and sometimes I play them surprisingly clean.
I think for a little while, I have to spend more and more time on sweep picking, still pretty far behind my alternate picking and legato, but it's slowly catching upSmile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2008 at 10:32
Heh! I'm lucky to get an hour of an evening to practice in - but there are some good tips here I'll be stealing to improve my speed. 
 
Talking of useful devices, I'm quite hooked on the DVD "50 Killer Metal Licks" from Lick Library (stop laughing...). I'm finding that combining these licks with scale/arpeggio practice makes practice more interesting, and adds nice twists to what could otherwise be predictable soloing.
 
At the moment, I don't so much shred as softly tear - but bearing in mind the last time I saw a guitar teacher was when I was 11, and that I only started playing lead out of necessity, I think my Nigel Tufnel impersonation is coming on nicely. I'm currently working my way up to Mick Box... Tongue
 
Rhythm's a different matter - I learned all of "Master of Puppets", "Spreading the Disease" and "Reign in Blood" within weeks of their release (before I was married and actually had the time), and my band covered tracks from these, "Surf Nicaragua", "Peace Sells..." and many other speedy albums of the time in our live sets.
 
As with lead, rhythm is mainly about learning patterns and picking techniques - the feel for the rhythm only comes after you've cracked those Big%20smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2008 at 07:36
Well take into account, us other guys, have been shredding for quite a while now. When I first started to learn to shred, of course it was very very boring, but I learnt to see the benefit of the hard work.
After a while, practicing, becomes second nature, no longer a chore, and this applies to practicing shred guitar as well.
A big fundamental of learning to shred, is not to just see it as cold mechanical practice, but to see how these devices can be used to allow yourself to become more free to express yourself.
It's up to you obviously as to what you do with the guitar in the future, but ask many other shredders like myself, and they will tell you, that they learnt to see beyond simply playing fast, and saw its potential to express emotions you simply can't by playing slowly.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2008 at 07:07
Well guys, seems we're nearing end with this, the last week has started.

Personally I'm not satisfied with my efforts. I quite soon realised I have no interest in hours of shredding practise so I've been playing random songs and composing, a bit more than usually though so I suppose I've done something for it, this including the recording job I'm doing for this aquintance of mine. But at this point I must raise a hat to people like Mr. Petrucci who really can put a whole day into something such dull. I'm happy with what I've got even though it means I'm way slower than most :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2008 at 06:52
Today we tried out the instrumedley, but our drummer had not had the chance to play drums in a few days, suffice to say he was a bit rusty.
We also ran through my arrangement of Buckethead's Soothsayer, which always proves somewhat of a challenge being in Bb minor.
While I didn't really sit down and really go through many technical exercises today, being able to jam with my buddies was cool, especially when I showed my bass playing mate the Lydian mode, and a chord progression to play while I soloed over the top. I never really get the chance to jam much while playing in modes like these, so it was good to be able to shred away in a certain mode and get more to grips with the patterns I could use in certain modes, and what notes to land on at specific times, plus also forcing me to use different arpeggio shapes than what I might normally useThumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2008 at 13:46

^Ah, that explains why this thread had seen a bit less action lately

I've got some news actually, some friends and I, we are going to do a little band project for a while. We are going to do a Heavy Metal instrumedly.
It consists of parts from Hangar 18 (Megadeth), the song Number of the Beast, Powerslave, Tornado of Souls (Megadeth) and Hallowed Be Thy Name.
This should prove a good challenge, perhaps not so in terms of shredding, but in terms of riffing ability, time and tempo changes.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2008 at 13:27
Still working on the recording thing, my computer has been acting up so I haven't been on the forum in a couple of days Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2008 at 00:26

A little progress report here. Compared to the start of the month, my string skipping has improved a fair bit, speed-wise, as well as less string noise when skipping noise.

My 5 string sweep picking patterns are coming along nicely as well.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2008 at 23:22
Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Well, I will be going into my friends neighbors studio and a few days to record some of my solo stuff I've been writing, should be fun Thumbs%20Up

 
Oh that's awesomeBig%20smile.
Can you give us a brief idea/description of what it might sound like?
 
Well I've got the basics for 3 songs so far...
 
the first song is roughly around 4:30 and sounds a bit like something Malmsteen would write, it's got a classical sort of edge to it like some of his music does.
 
the second song is about 9 minutes long and it doesn't remind me of anything I've ever heard before, it's truthfully a bunch of chaos and random riffs thrown around but not so random that they don't work together, it really is my "masterpiece" of the 3.
 
the third song has a bit more of a Satriani vibe to it probably around 4 minutes, it's got that really catchy "hook" to it, a couple not so complex power chord riffs, the hook, and a shreddy solo (not as good as Satriani's though LOL)
 
Unfortunatley I wasn't able to go in yesterday or today but I will be going in tommorow, saturday, and monday...also tuesday if I need the time.

I'm going to improvize all the solos in the studio of course, (that's where all the inspiration comes they say Wink)
 
Hopefully everything goes well.
 
Sounds coolSmile
I tend to improvise my solos too, but sometimes I find myself using the same licks take after take, I may even end up composing the solo instead, just depends on the vibe really.
Obviously, tell us when you are done, and post them on the Forum, or where ever, I'd love to hear the stuffThumbs%20Up
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2008 at 20:52
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Well, I will be going into my friends neighbors studio and a few days to record some of my solo stuff I've been writing, should be fun Thumbs%20Up

 
Oh that's awesomeBig%20smile.
Can you give us a brief idea/description of what it might sound like?
 
Well I've got the basics for 3 songs so far...
 
the first song is roughly around 4:30 and sounds a bit like something Malmsteen would write, it's got a classical sort of edge to it like some of his music does.
 
the second song is about 9 minutes long and it doesn't remind me of anything I've ever heard before, it's truthfully a bunch of chaos and random riffs thrown around but not so random that they don't work together, it really is my "masterpiece" of the 3.
 
the third song has a bit more of a Satriani vibe to it probably around 4 minutes, it's got that really catchy "hook" to it, a couple not so complex power chord riffs, the hook, and a shreddy solo (not as good as Satriani's though LOL)
 
Unfortunatley I wasn't able to go in yesterday or today but I will be going in tommorow, saturday, and monday...also tuesday if I need the time.

I'm going to improvize all the solos in the studio of course, (that's where all the inspiration comes they say Wink)
 
Hopefully everything goes well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2008 at 19:54
Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

Well, I will be going into my friends neighbors studio and a few days to record some of my solo stuff I've been writing, should be fun Thumbs%20Up

 
Oh that's awesomeBig%20smile.
Can you give us a brief idea/description of what it might sound like?
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Well, I will be going into my friends neighbors studio and a few days to record some of my solo stuff I've been writing, should be fun Thumbs%20Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2008 at 08:22

Today, I played for 2 hours. I'm concentrating more and more on working on 16th note triplets, as they have been a weakness of mine for a little while, as I got so used to play in 16th notes, but lately, my ability to play in 16th note triplets is really improving. The sweep picking is getting better as well and I'm even starting to get into the 5 string patterns now, starting off basic first off. Here's the one the one I'm doing (in A Major, but can transposed to any key of course)

E---------------------12h17p12
B-----------------14                  -14
G--------------14                        -14
D-----------14                               -14
A --12h16                                       16-12
E--
 
The pain in the arse bit for me, is being able to roll your  finger across the 14th frets of D,G and B, so the notes don't bleed together. Some people make the rolling across the strings movement purely from their finger, by distorting the shape of their finger to redistribute the pressure over the desired fret. Here's a useful tip. Use a motion from the whole arm instead of distorting the shape of the finger, to redistribute the pressure on the desired frets. 
This technique applies to all sweep picking patterns where you encounter the same fret over consecutive strings.
Hope that made senseThumbs%20Up
 
Oh, and just before I forget, try playing this in 16th note triplets, beginning at a comfortable tempo of perhaps 60bpm, but you can even do it in triplets if you want, again, at a tempo that is comfortable.
As for how you pick it, all down strokes, for the high E, what i like to do is down stroke on the high E string, hammer onto the 17th fret (the A note), pull off onto the 12th, so that way you only pick the high E string once, then for the remainder, just up strokes. Some people pull off on the 16th fret of A (C# note) onto the 12th fret of the A string, but the best and most economically way, especially if you want to sweep back down again and again, is to instead of pulling off onto the 12 fret, is to change to a downstroke for the 12.
This might seem hard at first, but it becomes second nature after a while.
This is the same priniciple I used for the 3 string patterns, is that for the lowest note in the arpeggio, you use a downstroke, which allows you change shapes more readily, and to just be more economical overall.


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