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emdiar
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Posted: August 25 2007 at 08:10 | |||
Afgesproken,.
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20250 |
Posted: August 25 2007 at 07:21 | |||
Dan ik denkt we kun arrangeerd deze zaak over a biertje (of twee) op de Waagplein! Ik woont in Alkmaar tijdensde week , maar ga terug elke week end in Brussel ij mijn vriendien!
Say Tuesday around 9PM bij De Notaris?
Choose your beer, pal!
No need of witness for this gentleman's bout!
You can shoot Antwerpenaars all you want! We (as in the whole of Belgium) call them Dikkeneks!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: August 25 2007 at 07:05 | |||
Still 3 weeks to go and then we can finally enjoy the Symforce Festival,
I am looking forward to it, high expectations
Edited by erik neuteboom - August 25 2007 at 18:21 |
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Angelo
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 10:22 | |||
Neh, I'll settle for a plain and simple Symforce Focus Lambic
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 04:27 | |||
And what about Symforce Mindblowing Mellotron Mark2 Brown Ale ?
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Wilcey
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 03:09 | |||
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm white beer I think we will arrive Friday, and return to UK Sunday....... I have no idea quite what we are doing yet though..... other than I know for sure where I'll be on Saturday! |
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Angelo
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:49 | |||
Go bake in the sun, Tony, instead of making us with jealous with a post like that....
Sean Trane: I'm with you on the Reserve Belg thing, but only if you admit that Zeeuws Vlaanderen new about Hoegaarden, Palm. Sloeber, La Chouffe and Kwak long before Brabant did, which was about 600 centuries before Alkmaar found out. |
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glass house
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:33 | |||
Just a quick note from Tenerife, see you in Tilburg!!
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emdiar
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 11:14 | |||
Sean, get that stone ordered.
As an ingeburgerd Alkmaarder (Kaaskop hoofdstad) I ought to kick your ass for that!
Plus, I had my photo taken in Antwerpen last week.....BLOODY FLITS PALEN!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 05:21 | |||
Prog-chick, what a pity you cannot come ..
Sean and John, I read about that Nearfest Thundering Hammond Pale Ale, mouthwatering but I go for Symforce Mindblowing Mellotron M400 Whitebeer 2007 !
By the way, Holland is also great to live but we need a roof too and again another windy, rainy and cloudy summer ...
Edited by erik neuteboom - August 21 2007 at 05:22 |
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Man Erg
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 05:11 | |||
Phew!
At first I read that Thundering Hammond was camel flavoured. |
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Symforce
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 05:05 | |||
did you know NEARfest had it's very own beer this year ? It is called "NEARfest thundering Hammond pale ale". This brew has a nice carmel flavor with a hint of chocolate malt in the finish."
Bobo
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Symforce
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 04:58 | |||
Belgium : great country but it should have a roof !
Bobo
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 03:41 | |||
John, indeed, we must make us Belgians be oroud of us with some of our brews!!
That way if those Reserve Belgs from Noord Brabant, want to they can secess from those evil domineering Northern Provinces of Nl.
That's all it took us to kick them cheeseheads out of our lowlands!!
I am ordering my gravestone this afternoon!! The epitath: he died trying to make Belgium greater!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Wilcey
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Posted: August 21 2007 at 02:13 | |||
I think some lesser known bands, some younger bands can be in a hurry to play somewhere like The Boerderij because it has such a great name on the prog scene, or maybe even fans of smaller more niche bands want to see them play there....... but there is no shame of putting in more ground work, more time building your audience and waiting until you have true confidence (not mere bravado!) of expecting at least a 50% turnout before such a big gig is arranged. I would have thought it was good to raise an eyebrow or two for your first gig at somewhere such as the boerderij, and for the right reasons, you don't want to be remembered as being the band who only sold 30 tix......... That's why a fest like Symforce is such a great idea! I am really looking forward to seeing so many bands and musicians during the day! I do have a feeling it'll be a fairly crazy day.......... see you all there!!!! |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 12:04 | |||
Good story John and I remember Ars Nova in Uden very well (all those male progheads ), I did an interview with Ars Nova and I had an unforgettable chat with Numero Ueno, the Japanese proghead #1 !
I hope you will play at least even with Symforce because you know that Arie Verstegen from The Boerderij has lost a lot of money on concerts with lesser and unknown progrock bands (After Crying 30 spectators, a shame!). He has almost stopped with promoting lesser and unknown progrock bands, I am concerned about that development so I hope your festival will be a success, all interesting ingredients are present, perhaps also Leffe and La Chouffe on draught ? Edited by erik neuteboom - August 20 2007 at 12:05 |
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Symforce
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 08:51 | |||
it would be fabulous to sell out but bearing in mind this is the very first edition of the festival I'm not reallu sure. We were very late with promotion so that we didn't have any posters up at Arrow or Fields of Rock and flyers have only been ready since last week so we didn't have anything at Loreley either. Mind you we put adds in Oor, Revolver, iO Pages and the forthcoming edition of Eclipsed but this doesn't guarantee anything. At this time it's more a question of word of mouth and internet which should do the trick. From Aurora Project I was informed that their fans always buy tickets at the very last minute but that this can be 150 tickets ! Some people might still be on holiday and others might wait for the last minute but if you're certain you'll come I advise you to get those tickets NOW so you won't be dissapointed. For Roadburn there were people from Spain who neglected the sold out message on the website and they came all the way only to find themselves sitting outside the venue with a little piece of cardboard in their hands on which they had written "tickets please" so don't let this happen to you
Symforce wants to be a yearly event and you can make this happen so be there !
Bobo
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Symforce
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 08:44 | |||
as you know Erik, I have been writing about prog for over thirty years now so I do have a lot of phone numbers in my little black book. It has always been a dream of mine to put a European NEARfest together but it soon became obvious there are so many things to take care of and doing something of this magnitude all by yourself without having to put a mortgage on your house is virtually impossible. Also it is my intention not only to put something together for the progheads but to make prog accessible for those who left the progship ten or more years ago. I mean there are so many Genesis fans who turned their backs to the band after "Wind and wuthering" who would be delighted and surprised could they get the chance to hear The Watch for instance. So the bottomline was to put something together which would please both the prog diehard as well as the proglover who is not so fanatic about the genre but who would be tempted to see big names like Flower Kings, Pendragon, and Focus on one bill and take all the rest as a bonus
Symforce should be a musical picknick where the audience decides for itself where it will stay longest. As 013 had experience with a similar idea regarding stonerrock based under the Roadburn banner, they were keen to give it a shot. However it proved more difficult than Roadburn to put a decent amount of bands together. First of all the main amount of Roadburn bands have a similar line-up and are happy with some basic drums, amps and speakers. For them it's more the "one, two, three, four, go" spirit all over. In the Symforce case we have to bear in mind the keyboard set-ups, the occasional extra instruments, the often large line-up, harmony vocals, etc...
trying to get to see all eleven bands might indeed look virtually impossible but we tried to bear in mind the amount of people coming to see the festival giving them the possibility to absorb an idea of the various bands on offer. The batcave will have a genuine Hammond organ + pedals + lesley which will be used by three out of the four bands (Isopoda uses a Kurzweil with all the sounds as presets). These are the kind of things you have to bear in mind setting up something like Symforce. I remember Progfest once needing no less than three authentic Mellotrons on behalf of Änglagärd which is something they succeeded doing after lots of phonecalls !
believe me we have toyed around with lots of names and one of them we saw as a headliner kept us on our toes for five long months before finally saying no. In the meantime one of our other options had agreed to perform somewhere else so it was back to the drawing board. I had some great names and surprises up my sleeve but flying say ten people over from the States and having to rent tons of equipment simply is impossible when it concerns a not so wellknown name. I know Phideaux played the Crescendo festival last week but believe me they probably paid for their flights by themselves. The same applies to Ars Nova when they performed in Uden so many years ago. Numero Ueno paid for the tickets and was happy with hotel and food in exchange for their great set. Of course once the first edition has happened things will go a little easier as a lot of bands will know about the festival and the professional way it is taken care of. With everything under one roof and a team of professional helpers it's a joy to team up with the 013 and hopefully we can steer things in the same direction as the Roadburn festival which once again sold out this year !
no idea about ticket sales for the time being but keep promoting the festival and brings as many friends as you can is my moto !
regarding CD's, T-shirts, etc... three major prog CD vendors will be present (I will be selling Musea CD's at 10 euro/piece ! if you like a list before send me a mail and I'll reserve the titles for you. They are mainly old titles so don't expect brandnew stock to sell for 10 euro. However what I do have on offer 10 euro is a fantastic price and the discs are brand new most of which even still sealed !), every single artist will have a space to sell merchandise and/or arrange a signing session, internet radio station Laser Radio will have a stall, etc...
Bobo Edited by Symforce - August 20 2007 at 17:04 |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20250 |
Posted: August 20 2007 at 08:40 | |||
Hey John, La bienvenue, mon ami!
Happy you could make it here and that you followed my message in PE
Angelo, didn't buy the ticket, yet
John, do you expect a sold-out? Edited by Sean Trane - August 20 2007 at 08:44 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: August 20 2007 at 05:25 | |||
Well John, I am really surprised to see you on my Symforce thread, let's forget about the bad memories during my departure from iO Pages and focus on your great festival, OK?
It's wonderful to notice that so many PA members are going to visit the Symforce Festival, most from Holland (of course) but also Germany, Belgium, the UK, France and even Portugal! Can you tell something how you managed to organize this festival with such an amazing line-up? And how about the sales of the tickets? And can we expect a kind of market with CD/DVD/t-shirts sales?
Edited by erik neuteboom - August 20 2007 at 05:27 |
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