Top 5 epics and why? |
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jiSh
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Posted: June 11 2007 at 21:31 |
I'll list mine: 1) Six Degrees Of Innter Turbulence / Dream Theater - Simply amazing. The best song I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Great opening, closing, and a sweet cream filling.
2) I / Meshuggah
3) The Divine Wings of Tragedy - Symphony X
4) The Oddysey / Symphony X
5) The Great Nothing - Spock's Beard
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 21:24 |
The Wall (the whole thing), because it's the height of theater rock
Scheherazade, because I just got it! Tarkus, the album that got me serious about prog Death's Crown, a lost treasure Tales, say no more Edited by Atavachron - June 10 2007 at 21:26 |
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Forgotten Son
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 13 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1356 |
Posted: June 10 2007 at 21:11 |
1. This Strange Engine (Marillion): So moving. Probably H era Marillion's most emotional track. Rothery's guitar work is brilliant.
2. The Last Man On Earth (Pendragon): It's hard to pick out one Pendragon epic, but I think this one is close to perfect. The choruses at the beginning are sublime and Barrett's haunting guitar playing is superb. 3. The Willing Well (Coheed and Cambria): I don't care what anyone says. This is definitely Prog and a very good Prog epic, at that. It's pretty diverse and not one of its ~24 minutes is wasted. 4. Solomon (Arena): An extremely bombastic climax to a very bombastic album. I love it, particularly the melodies (vocal and guitar) that start with the line "Does it matter to you?" 5. Supper's Ready (Genesis): The prog epic. Peter Gabriel is on fire on this track, and the outro is one of the classic moments of 70s Progressive Rock. A few honourable mentions: Harvest of Souls (IQ) A Place in the Queue (The Tangent) Ice (Camel) The Bright Ambassadors of Morning (Pure Reason Revolution) Buying New Soul (Porcupine Tree) Narcissus (Threshold) And many more. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 18:41 |
INote: I used to place Close to the Edge as N° 2 but now I don't consider this song as an epic, it's one of the best long tracks ever but no epic narrations so it's outside the frames IMHO. Iván
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DaysEnd
Forum Groupie Joined: June 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 52 |
Posted: June 10 2007 at 17:02 |
Yes - Close to the Edge - the pinnacle of progressive rock. It's dark, light, slow and mysterious, sharp and edgy. And powerful chords during Wakeman's church organ solo.
Yes - Awaken - Not quite as diverse as the former, but very beautiful and layered. The echo effect in the studio works best with this track.
Genesis - Supper's Ready - The song tells a great story, and it can be very fun at times (Willow Farm anyone?). The 9/8 conclusion with Banks soloing is a great listen.
Rush - 2112 - Equally great story. The guitar solos are some of Lifeson's best. They didn't need keyboards to pull this one off. I wouldn't say Rush had the idea of "prog" in their heads at the time when they made this album, but it's epic nonetheless. Now if they had decided to make this song an album or two later...
Spock's Beard - At the End of the Day - Catchy riffs that stay in your head awhile. The transitions in this song make it flow very well. I like the spanish guitar lines, and anticipate every time Neal Morse gets prepared to play a keyboard solo.
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All the old familiar choruses come crowding in a different key: Melodies decaying in sweet dissonance.
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FruMp
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
Posted: June 10 2007 at 13:09 |
Mine is a fairly conventional list I guess, I haven't listened to a few of these bands in a while but these songs hold a very special place in my heart.
Yes - Close to the edge, pretty self explanitory, I've been on a vast musical journey over the past 3 years since discovering prog and later metal and many other interesting genres in between and I have yet to find a piece of music that is as cohesive, genuine and appealing to me as close to the edge, I think it's pretty much the pincale of contemporary music in my eyes. Rush - 2112, just a fantastic song that I latched onto at the very beginning of my prog journey which showed me just how great the genre could be, some great riffs, I enjoy the story and just the song in general really. Jethro Tull - thick as a brick, I just love the sense of humour and the great story it tells, not to mention the music is fantastic. Pink Floyd - Shine on you crazy diamond, I'm very reserved when it comes to emotional songs, and when a song develops an emotional meaning for me it's very rare, this song has the perfect subtlety and grace to acheive that. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - L'evoluzione, bit of a different one, just a fantastic song that opened my eyes to I guess non english speaking bands and italian prog and the whole european gate just swung open for me after enjoying this classic. |
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MusicForSpeedin
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 613 |
Posted: June 10 2007 at 00:33 |
Fantomas - Surgical Sounds - Maybe the only piece of music that has ever actually frightened me. I feel like I am ripping on flesh and bone when I listen to this. This is primal and evil. I love ever bit of it...even the end. VDGG - A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - One of the darkest songs off of one of the darkest albums. The music is very moving yet depressing.
Can Tago Mago - I consider this entire album to just be ONE but more specifically Halleluhwah and Aumgn. Spaced out and hypnotic. The best music to listen to while out of it for sure.
Radiohead Exit Music - Sure it isn't an epic to the standards...but I don't care about the standards. This song in itself has got to be on of the most moving songs I've ever heard. The power of the fuzzy bass line with the Nick Mason like drumming. The lyrics are also amazing. This song is EPIC!
John Zorn - Six Litanies For Heliogabalus - This is too much. This CD is the ultimate piece of prog for me. It twists and turns and never leaves you with a dull moment. You can sit in a room full of people and no one will say a word. This music is THAT powerful. Even the Patton voice solo will keep just about anyone quiet. This entire CD does not cease to amaze me and probably never will.
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Astrodomine
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 06 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 182 |
Posted: June 10 2007 at 00:05 |
Close To The Edge
Tarkus Atom Hearth Mother A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers In The Court Of The King Crimson |
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purplepiper
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 280 |
Posted: June 08 2007 at 16:49 |
yes-close to the edge
elp-tarkus
jethro tull-thick as a brick (pt. 1 and 2)
genesis-suppers ready
pink floyd-echoes
there are more, but I can't think of them. I'm not saying these are the definitive top 5, but they come to mind immediately for me.
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for those about to prog, we salute you.
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jplanet
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 14:19 |
Yes - Gates of Delirium: One of those adventurous and daring compositions, but above all, highly melodic and enjoyable. Low on repetition and filler -- every moment of the music reflects something in the story being told.
Transatlantic: Stranger in Your Soul: A modern masterpiece! Spock's Beard: The Great Nothing: Goosebumps galore Pirates: Maybe ELP's most ambitious piece. More cohesive and maturely composed than their earlier epics -- Tarkus didn't make it here as I'm not as much of a fan of the disjointed melodies unless there is a breathtaking melodic resolution, although Aquatarkus live seems to accomplish this better than the studio version. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick: Will always be one of my favorites from JT -- I don't think they've ever matched its brilliance before or since. |
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Shakespeare
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 08:04 |
5. The Creation/The Seperated Man (tie) - Neal Morse. The
gorgeous melodies (first played on The Creation, and some reprised on
The Seperated Man) can really uplift and touch the listener. Portnoy
and George in the rhtythm departement really tear it up, but not too
the excess that it takes away from the excellent writing, or from the
beautiful melodies. The instrumental sections in these songs are
absolutely brilliant, and are as atmospheric as ambient music, as
exhilirating as prog metal, and as moving as Morse's music has ever
been.
4. Hergest Ridge, Part One - Mike Oldfield. The atmosphere of this album is extremely captivating, and very rewarding. Though Mike is no guitar wizard, or instrumental genius, he is fantastic at writing music, and his most beaitiful melodies are found on Hergest Ridge. Part One is a bit more diverse, and not as sloppy as Part Two. 3. Octavarium - Dream Theater. Dream Theater, as far as I knew, were just a bland metal band. I thought they were just musical geniuses with no skill at writing and no musical sensitivity. But when I took this album out of the library, and heard this song, that presumption was shattered to pieces. Not only are these some of the very best musicians in the world, but they are also phenomenal writers, and explore in many different style of music. This album is extremely emotional from its moody beginning, to its epic climax. 2. Histoires Sans Paroles - Harmonium. This is an extremely delicate song. Its soft flutes, guitars and keyboards all meld together amazingly. They even manage to shift from section to section seamlessly. The beauty of this song has rarely been matched, let alone kept consistent for seventeen minutes. The flute line is one of the very best string of notes that can be played. 1. Supper's Ready - Genesis. Extremely captivating, beatiful music with phenomenally diverse atmospheres. The musicianship and complexity is top-shelf, but there's to it than that. The music has a bond with the listener. When listening to this song, it's like reading a well written novel. The serene, haunting introduction sets the mood, and the tensions builds until the massive climax and the conclusion. I doubt anyone will really read all that. |
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EinTon
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 21:36 |
You can download it here:
http://www.musicload.de/item.ml?releaseid=1734856_2 it's track 6-9 - they have split the piece in its four parts... Edited by EinTon - May 26 2007 at 00:12 |
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 17:59 |
hahah.. I don't.... but I will... thanks! |
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EinTon
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 16:17 |
Do you know Aksak Maboul's "cinema" (RIO-style) ? It's also very cohesive musical piece, not a "suite" of different pieces - although not a conventional "pop song" with verse and refrain. It's characterized by several musical "themes" which reappear in many parts of the piece, but always a bit different arranged and in a different mood. The "main theme" is even played forward and backward at the beginning and the end of the piece. You |
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micky
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 18:36 |
ahhh... back to it.. now that the pit has been sated.
having covered the top epic song and top epic 'cut and paste' the epic album..... and should be no surprise 3. Tales from Topographic Oceans. an grand epic across 2 LP's of a grand symphony in 4 movements. Before anyone who bothers to care flames me... listen to the album... closely. The 4 'epics' are acutally parts of a larger epic. They are all related. I never caught it until someone a hell of a lot smarter than I pointed it out hahah. Next up... epic instrumental 4. A Saucerful of Secrets... forget the instrumental w**kfests that say nothing. This one does.. an instrumental epic that predates the theme that Yes did with Gates of Delirium by YEARS. More subtle.. and thus... once you strip away the chrome and all the bells and whistles. A far more interesting epic. last up.... simply personal preference here... for shear quality.... No surprise to any who know me.... 5.Ys - forget the track listing.... and find Andreas translation of it here at PA's. What's more epic than the retelling of a man's journeys and encounters with death. Simply an incredbile epic that flows with the same brutal intensity throughout the whole album. Completely different that anything that comes to mind from the so called masters of prog. Edited by micky - May 23 2007 at 18:38 |
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micky
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:53 |
for me... probably in stages..
1. Close to the Edge - the perfect '18 minute long song'... not a hodgepodge of song fragments tied together, however well, like Tarkus and Supper's Ready for example. Again.. as I've posted in the past... if don't don't like a part of Supper's Ready.. wait for the next one.... here.. wait..... I"ll let John McFerrin say it ...he's a pro at ...I'm not... ' ELP had had Tarkus, Genesis had had Supper's Ready, King Crimson had had, er, Lizard, not to mention Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick and so on. . |
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Harry Hood
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:24 |
"Grendel" by Marillion - Such a badass song from beginning to end, and the Megaman-esqe middle section is the peak of prog badassity.
"You Enjoy Myself" by Phish - These guys are so underrated in the prog community. They took a composition that was 9 minutes on the album and developed it into a 25 minute live masterpiece, featuring a groovy Yes-like opening, a rockin' middle section, a funky bass solo, and closing with a crazy ever changing vocal jam. "Cassandra Gemini" by The Mars Volta - This song bombards the listener with aggressive melodies from beginning to end, and rarely slows down, except for a short ambient section. It's filled with so many great hooks and vocal lines that are so fun to sing along to. "Close To The Edge" by Yes - Not much to say about this one, although I will say that the Yessymphonic version is probably the strongest. "The Truth Will Set You Free" by The Flower Kings - This was the first Flower Kings song I heard and I fell in love instantly. I've only heard it once or twice since then, but I'm listening to it again right now and remembering how great it made me feel on the first listen. |
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darksideof
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:11 |
besides the most common you guys list them here which I also love but I won't repeat myself. I am listing other good ones.
Renaissance: Ashes Are Burning, Song of scheheherazade.
Kansas Magnum Opus
Supertramp : Crime of the century, Enven in the Quietest Moments.
Porcupine Tree: Sky moves sideways 1-2, Wating Phase 1-2
Bill Bruford The sahara Of snow Pt. 1-2
Soft Machine Hazard Profile PT. 1-5
Yes Awaken, Gates of the Delirium
King Crimson: Larks' tongues in aspic part 1, the talking Drums Part 2
Nektar A Tab in the Ocean, Remmeber the future.
Gong:Master builder, The Isle of everywhere,You never blow yr Tip Forever.
and more!!!!!
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SheikYerbouti
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 12:02 |
Ahhh, this is very hard! I can't arrange them by numbers. But I enjoy these:
King Crimson - Lizard - That jazzy brass part, oh lala.
King Crimson - Starless - One note solo, and some pretty impressive saxomophonin'
Yes - Close to the edge and Gates of delerium - Nostalgia :D
Wobbler - Hinterland - love when the beautifull main theme is arranged for classical guitar, can't believe they are Norwegian!
Camel - Ladyfantasy - I got special emotions tied to this song
Many good favourites here!
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A B Negative
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:30 |
1. Tangerine Dream - Birth of Liquid Plejades. I probably listen to this track more than any other. Fantastic floating sounds.
2. McDonald & Giles - Birdman. Ex-Crimso members produce something very different from ITCOTCK but just as good.
3. Caravan - Nine Feet Underground. One of my favourite Canterbury tracks.
4. Klaus Schulze - Crystal Lake (especially the Xylotones part at the beginning - hypnotic!)
5. Grand Giraffe Venerator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. It's got everything, including the kitchen sink).
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