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Epignosis
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 08:22 |
I've got a rant.
I don't use Facebook, Twitter, et. al. and I do not plan to start.
But I am tired of showing my wife something or telling her a piece of news about my family and her saying, "Oh yeah, already saw it on Facebook." Maybe I'm just getting old and feeling nostalgic for old-fashioned conversation.
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 15 2013 at 20:23 |
When you're a victim of cult abuse, people treat you as if you're selling something. It's because you, the victim, are out of line by exposing monsters to the public. Like as if some "white bearded man" is in the sky pushing the panic button. "You should not speak" , "you should not tell such lies", "you lie because if you were a real victim, you wouldn't be talking about it." and skeptics seem to go only by the holy word of the press. My personal friends who are journalists have educated me to the cons and practices of sensationalized crime story articles. It is a fact that in the real world some obvious evidence revolving around crimes are not facts and in many cases are a cover up for the real facts. Usually the basic facts of a murder surface and everything else to justify the crime is written off in history as nothing more than human assumption.The real mystery lead is based on circumstantial evidence. Everyone working on the case must have a mutal understanding and finalize what to release to the press.
Regarding my friends who suffered S.R.A. and other cults that inflicted bizzare torture tactics upon them, witnessed death of their friends through Satan cult rituals.....their testimonies are warnings to people who have not the awareness and are not willing to see the signs of these sadistic nut cases. It's never explained with this kind of emotion unless...you, yourself,... were attacked, abducted, by a cult. It shouldn't be discussed because to be honest, many people find it to be farce. So...from that point of view, think about this: You and your friends were abused, a couple of deaths in the witch family through rituals, you were drugged and thrown into a pit of dead snakes, etc...and now the world is laughing at you ..while many cult leaders, sadistic members, walk away from murder, torture, whatever?..and are still living in the community and will never be convicted because they were careful to not leave marks and there is no physical evidence to bring into a court of law. So...people are laughing at us, the victims, for telling B.S. stories, ...while these sadistic maniacs are living in society and probably still performing the same acts as they did when I was a kid. I mean? Don't you find that within itself farce? ridiculous? impossible? Let's say for a moment that you believe my story....and discussed it with me at a campfire. Would you consider the series of unjust events to be laughable in a sick way? Because....I do and I also find the outcome of these crimes to be pathetic.
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 14 2013 at 11:22 |
I do know from years of experience , (and most people do), that a good relationship sometimes causes grief in your life. It may begin after a few years of marriage and develop into mental torture after, during, or prior to the so called 7 year itch. You took on the responsibility of another person's life. You took a vow and made a promise. All those beautiful childlike romantic pleasures are now replaced with responsibility, hard work, determination, and you must now take on the role of a different kind of guardian angel. One that can take abuse from your spouse when they perhaps have a mental meltdown. If this persists endlessly ....the joy of love and happiness becomes interspursed between it and if you are not an actor, depression will catch up with you and the company of another woman, (and only just for conversation), may be a personal desire for you to escape. You may be surprised when your spouse changes their attitude and expresses love and passion once again. Your spouse may return from the store with a hat you spoke of only once over a week ago and you realize that she cares enough to remember. All that mysterious romantic energy you sometimes view in a Clare Danes movie doesn't last very long once you're bought and sold into a so called lifetime relationship. All that original , unexplainable, beautiful + mysterious love and attraction ...years later becomes the Rosanne T.V. show. In that sense , the truth in reality is sometimes painful. It's like as if the world or reality check lied to me. Placing a piece of chewing gum in your mouth and tasting all that flavor. Then later ..the gum will lose it's flavor.becoming a bit of mulch. When that happens, it's nature's way of saying F-YOU
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 14 2013 at 02:47 |
stonebeard wrote:
I am really, really, really tired of being let down. I just had the best day in the world yesterday, with a wonderful person that I really could see myself being in a relationship with for awhile, but she cut it off. She's moving to Ohio in 2 weeks for a master's program and doesn't "do long distance". I understand, but it's horrible. I haven't felt this bad in 2 years since my last breakup. At least that one has a couple months head start before my feelings were crushed. Does it ever get easier? Is this mid-20s bullsh*t over at some point? I just want to find someone I can actually feel something with. i don't really give a sh*t about having sex anymore. It's fun to get that release occasionally, but what's the cost? Having the person leave your life just as soon as they entered it? I'm callous but I'm not callous enough to deal with that for a lifetime. And just recently my roommate says he's on a break with his girlfriend because of different life paths. They've been together for 3 years. He was going to propose this fall. What the hell? Just when you think one simple thing is a sure thing in life, it falls apart. How does anyone stay together? How does anyone even manage to make anything work anymore? I understand one night stands. It's simple and easy. I don't understand long term relationships because it seems impossible to get one. Everyone puts up barriers to keep themselves safe, and I can never find anyone willing to take them down for me. It is excruciating.
"All in all it was all just bricks in the wall...."
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We're fed the lie that successful long term relationships are the norm. It seems abundantly clear that like all phenomena we agree have value, they should be considered the exception and obey the law of scarcity accordingly. I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't have to work at their relationships, but I know loads of couples who stay together just to avoid the damaging effect on their kids, the stigma of 'failing' or the effort involved in starting over with somebody else. (2/several unhappy people is better than the possibility of 1 happy person? go figure ) Everyone is striving to achieve something that we fool ourselves into believing is plentiful, natural, effortless and routinely normal. Until such time as we as a society face up to the fact that monogamous stability is such a fragile and unique outcome, the lawyers, media, churches, therapists and reality TV shows will continue to reap their misery dividend.
Edited by ExittheLemming - July 14 2013 at 02:49
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 14 2013 at 01:04 |
I am really, really, really tired of being let down. I just had the best day in the world yesterday, with a wonderful person that I really could see myself being in a relationship with for awhile, but she cut it off. She's moving to Ohio in 2 weeks for a master's program and doesn't "do long distance". I understand, but it's horrible. I haven't felt this bad in 2 years since my last breakup. At least that one has a couple months head start before my feelings were crushed. Does it ever get easier? Is this mid-20s bullsh*t over at some point? I just want to find someone I can actually feel something with. i don't really give a sh*t about having sex anymore. It's fun to get that release occasionally, but what's the cost? Having the person leave your life just as soon as they entered it? I'm callous but I'm not callous enough to deal with that for a lifetime. And just recently my roommate says he's on a break with his girlfriend because of different life paths. They've been together for 3 years. He was going to propose this fall. What the hell? Just when you think one simple thing is a sure thing in life, it falls apart. How does anyone stay together? How does anyone even manage to make anything work anymore? I understand one night stands. It's simple and easy. I don't understand long term relationships because it seems impossible to get one. Everyone puts up barriers to keep themselves safe, and I can never find anyone willing to take them down for me. It is excruciating.
"All in all it was all just bricks in the wall...."
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Dean
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 11:24 |
TODDLER wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ I think I get the gist of this i.e. the source of certitude has changed since the internet: the arbiter in any contemporary argument is that of something quoted from the internet. In other words, choose yer filter carefully because we're both talking bollocks.
| It's was so mysterious and exciting for 2 young teenagers in the early 70's to discover a prog band by walking into a record shop. It was a hands on experience. The interest was mainly the music and not the catagorization. The mystery could not unfold by turning on a computer and researching the band. I hate this state of feeling sorry for myself, but there is a death to the original exciting interest because it has been replaced with internet. It's self pity to long for that to return. It's so strange how American kids would be 10 times more mystified by stumbling on to a European band then...where today the information is reached by turning on a machine. There are great/fine points to the progress of the net...yet the mystery has vanished and I miss that more than anything in life. I always thrive to discover a Prog band where upon a lack of information is available on the net....just to feel that mystery once again. Am I off balance with this concept or do other's feel this way? Time for meds maybe? |
The internet has opened up the world in ways we couldn't even have imagined back in the 70s. In 1972 I went looking for an album that was released a mere three years earlier, I had the band's debut release from 1967 but being a cash-strapped teen no one had bought their followup album for me and pocket money didn't stretch that far - but in 1972 I had a Saturday job that paid money and I could buy albums when I wanted and didn't have to wait for record tokens at birthdays and christmas. Alas by then the album had been discontinued and, since it was not a big seller on its release, most of the unsold copies had probably been returned to the factory to be melted down and used for the next Donny Osmand or Brotherhood of Man album. By 1972 it was known as a rarity and a collectors item - I didn't need a internet to tell me of it's existence, nor of the existnece of the band, I knew they had split up and were no longer recording, interest in the band had died away with no likelihood of there ever being a revival or reissue, my only recourse was secondhand record stores and the small adds in the back of the NME and Melody Maker. Over the next twenty or so years my search continued - I found it once at a record collector's fayre with a price ticket of £200 and walked away empty handed, frustrated and disolutioned. I didn't covert it for its monetary value and collectorbility - I just wanted to hear it, I loved their first album so much I needed to hear their second, but £200 was a lot of money (two week salary if I recall correctly) and all I was going to do with it was take it home, put it on the turntable and actually listen to it, not hermetically seal it in shrink-wrap and store it in a wall-safe as some family heirloom to sit and acrue value... and there was always that nagging doubt hanging over the album - records and bands are obscure for a reason... (and this reason was self-evident) ... because they didn't sell enough albums, perhaps it wasn't as good as the collector hype. By the mid 90s everything had changed - there was a boom in reissues as smaller record companies could buy back-catalogues of lesser known bands from the bigger boys and release long forgotten albums on CD - they didn't have to worry about selling 10s of thousands of copies to recoup production and promotion costs, their business plans were smaller-scale - they could sell a few thousand over the Internet and make still a profit, especially now the baby boomers who bought those albums in the 60s and 70s where now fast approaching their midlife crisis and would be ripe pickings in the nostalgic reclaiming of their youth frenzy. And the Internet, for all its faults and errors, was (and still is) a marvelous playground and adventure park to discover that nostalgic youth-hood once lost - sure we have to slap down some of the young'uns who get above themselves, but then so do many of the old'uns, in an environment where no single "power" controls the information we become the editors who discriminate the plausible-facts from the barefaced invention and half-remembered anecdotes. And one of the first things I ever did when I got "online" back in 1993 was to search for this album and this band, and precious little there was to be found, but it got better. It took a few years for the ex-singer to put a website together , and it took a rising light of the Dutch metal scene to re-discover him, and it took a while for the band's back cataglogue to be issued on CD, but eventually it was. And none of that would have happened without the Internet. So for the past 15 years I have owned a CD copy of the album I so desperately searched for in the preceeding 20-something years, and yeah, it's not so great and there was a reason it didn't sell so well, but I have it now and can listen to it whenever I like.
Edited by Dean - July 11 2013 at 11:25
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 11:01 |
On Y.T. guitar instructors are video taped and produce instructions on how to play a Progressive piece. You might have a page which lists 6 or 7 instructors attempting to guide you through a Steve Howe piece. I was Classically trained as a teenager and from experience ..there is usually several ways of playing a piece that produce the same voicing used by the original player/composer. The practical method is to pick and choose the best version to feel comfortable with drawn from 1 or 2 pages of instructional vids on Y.T. There is always that one note or chord which is not fitting to the ear. I can imagine Godley + Creme , Stevie Wonder, or master Jon Anderson saying....uh...no..that is not quite right. The note is not fitting or the chord voicing does not sound correct behind the melody line.
Tabs are sometimes overall...incorrect. Some instructors take the easy way out and string the student along to ride the money train. Originally if the piece is taught correctly, the student will spend less time in learning the difficult passages than being taught the incorrect way...which means more struggle in the future due to originally learning the easy method. It's a pure struggle and I feel for young musicians who take themselves seriously, have little experience, lack in funds, and are being faced with con-artist instructors who hide the secrets of guitar playing from them. If kids want to play like Steve Vai, Frank Zappa, or Hackett/Howe, I prepare them with all the methods to reach their goals. Other instructors find me to be a threat to the business. I hate for young musicians with ambition to be told lies and waste their life on someone else's selfishness. Many of them have the potential to grow and expand quickly , but are surprisingly drawn into a game they shouldn't be wasting their life playing. I believe in honesty.
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 10:14 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ I think I get the gist of this i.e. the source of certitude has changed since the internet: the arbiter in any contemporary argument is that of something quoted from the internet. In other words, choose yer filter carefully because we're both talking bollocks.
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It's was so mysterious and exciting for 2 young teenagers in the early 70's to discover a prog band by walking into a record shop. It was a hands on experience. The interest was mainly the music and not the catagorization. The mystery could not unfold by turning on a computer and researching the band. I hate this state of feeling sorry for myself, but there is a death to the original exciting interest because it has been replaced with internet. It's self pity to long for that to return. It's so strange how American kids would be 10 times more mystified by stumbling on to a European band then...where today the information is reached by turning on a machine. There are great/fine points to the progress of the net...yet the mystery has vanished and I miss that more than anything in life. I always thrive to discover a Prog band where upon a lack of information is available on the net....just to feel that mystery once again. Am I off balance with this concept or do other's feel this way? Time for meds maybe?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 09:57 |
^ I think I get the gist of this i.e. the source of certitude has changed since the internet: the arbiter in any contemporary argument is that of something quoted from the internet. In other words, choose yer filter carefully because we're both talking bollocks.
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 09:49 |
The major problem with prog websites is the wide variety of fans who will always disagree with each other...just as they did in 1979..but..it was easier to deal with then. One person may have stumbled on to King Crimson at age 16 when 2112 by RUSH was released. They have more interest and respect for King Crimson's RED than the early material. Another person may only desire to hear Crimson in 81' and have total disrespect for the 69' line up. A Classical snob may make insulting remarks about Crimson etc....Get them all together to post on a thread and it's like having Ian Gillan and Ritchie Blackmore together in the same room.
Then you have an abundance of people who like to follow the rules of being politically correct. Everything is a job. Even being a journalist ...so why believe everything you read? You don't have to trust the goverment, but why mistrust them to a fanatical degree? Much of the mistrust revolves around writing a book to make profit anyway. It is difficult to find a person who can shrug their shoulders once in a while and say..."I don't know?" We are not suppose to know but wonder and without the pondering life becomes a bore. Internet is a bore because it sometimes contains many unanswered questions....which...over the last 10 years I have discovered wrong answers/information on Wikipedia. Their facts are sometimes wrong and mislead people to believe in something that I know for a fact in 1972 was not true.
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 10:23 |
It would be one thing if cell phone recordings could actually be good and worthwhile. But they all are terrible. Every one. It's a waste of time.
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 07:35 |
Ady Cardiac wrote:
my beef?.....people at gigs who insist useing their mobile phones to film/take rubbish photos of gigs continuously through out a gig......idiots of the highest order.......end up missing the experience of the whole package of a live concert as been looking at it through their t**t mobiles....then after insist days later showing off the grainy shakey footage with awful sound to those who weren't there....... |
A worthless situation for the musician. Like the moron I just mentioned in my last post....she would show up to your gig and get mobile happy. Problem is..you've got ignorant spiteful degenerates who follow Prog, are members of Prog websites, F.B. etc.....that would defend the garbage you've just pointed out to everyone. They want to be a star on YOU TUBE and a majority of the world doesn't care. Today...it's more about the audience than the band/act. Let us make statue's of audience members and place them in front of the stage. Let us find the band's set list on line and prepare all the pencil-neck geeks for what's in store that evening. No more surprises.
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 04:56 |
my beef?.....people at gigs who insist useing their mobile phones to film/take rubbish photos of gigs continuously through out a gig......idiots of the highest order.......end up missing the experience of the whole package of a live concert as been looking at it through their t**t mobiles....then after insist days later showing off the grainy shakey footage with awful sound to those who weren't there.......
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 02:46 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ funny thing is that despite 4 consecutive terms in office it's practically impossible to find anyone in the UK who would readily admit to voting for her (apart from Jim Garten of PA, and kudos to same for acknowledging as much) |
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 07 2013 at 10:37 |
Years ago..I recorded a narrative story on to cdr. A few mates on P.A. expressed interest in hearing it. I mailed copies to them and one particular individual posted the story and created a vid for it on Y.T. A few months later a "metal monster" contacted the P.A. members and informed them that they were walking through the forbidden jungles and if they didn't remove the vid...they would have a lawsuit to face. The vid was removed. Mrs. Metal Monster took her chances and scared off the interested party by applying macho power tactics. A confrontation between me and her revealed her frantic notion to produce a vid herself and we agreed that she should. She acted as if she had a position of power with a full blown ego minded attitude and she had convinced herself that she had scared off the young members of P.A. She had created independent vids for my film oriented compositions. It was evident that she had been following me around to every website I visited, kepping tabs on my private business or my personal friendships with P.A. members. She had information that only a hacker could know. She attempted to crush and break ties with myself and friends I conversed with on P.A.
Eventually...all skeptics who disregarded the story as farce, freaks who supported the story etc...began to contact her and express their views.
She then contacted me and suggested that the vid...once again be removed. I responded by demanding that she removed all of her vids. She did and now I have my life back again. She was a threat to my family for 2 years and now the metal monster has become the dying dinosaur. Keep in mind my friends...(and even though you may assume this already), hackers are on a mission to abuse and control another's life pattern. They feel quite safe , but think like a shark. They will never know you as a person. Sometimes you might make a promise and you're forced to decide because of a whim. We are all unpredictable and the computer , internet, etc, is seperate from our searching for that one special thing inside ourselves that no one can give or take away.They cannot control your life and add it up to one great big sum. Have a nice day!
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 10:15 |
^ So true,,,,,,,we are meant to get our vitamins from food
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Dean
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Posted: July 05 2013 at 20:03 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
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Didn't know they were considered drugs. |
Well they don't work by magic. | Vitamins don't work by magic. |
Some, if not most, vitamins work by magic. The human body needs vitamins to function, like all other animals that eat, these vitamins we get through our natural diet. Vitamin supplements are only needed if they are not being obtained through natural diet - taking more than the body needs does not make the body work better. However, millions of vitamin supplements are consumed every day and the huge profits are made as a result of that even though most of them flush through the digestive system unused (or in extreme cases can cause negative effects if in very high dosage). If taking unnecessary vitamins make you feel better then it's a placebo effect - and that's magic.
People die from overdosing on sleeping pills, surely you must have worked out they were a drug from that alone.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 05 2013 at 16:58 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Didn't know they were considered drugs. |
Well they don't work by magic. | Vitamins don't work by magic. |
No they don't. But surely you must know that sleeping pills are drugs?
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Posted: July 05 2013 at 15:57 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dean
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Posted: July 05 2013 at 13:54 |
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