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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:44 |
Bob Greece wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
At least it's not a 5.1!
Let's dream on serious gear (i currently want to buy extraordinary 1000€/piece "Transparent Super" power cables ):
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What's wrong with 5.1 systems?
1000 Euros for cables? You get paid too much in France.
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What's even more laughable is that these are POWER cables. What a joke ... sorry, but any engineer would literaly roll on the floor laughing his ass off when he heard about that.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:28 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Thanks Mike for showing what's to avoid: false speakers and a false sub... |
You forgot to add "in my opinion".
Edit: By the way, what do you mean by "false" sub? You keep talking about speaker diameters like 38cm being mandatory for good bass reproduction ... that's utter nonsense. May I remind you of the famous 2x12/4x10 bass cabinets?
Edited by MikeEnRegalia
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:12 |
Thanks Mike for showing what's to avoid: false speakers and a false sub...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:58 |
limeyrob wrote:
Can I have your advice please.
Has anyone had any experience in using a 2.1 setup as their main system. I am listening to some Altec Lansing's through my PC. They are OK for PC use but I think I need something extra for the lounge. |
I can recommend the Logitech speaker sets ... but why not buy a 5.1 set? They're not much more expensive, and you can always use them without the rear speakers and add them later.
Low budget PC speakers (around $80), but still MUCH better than any other PC speaker set that I know:
Medium Budget ($200):
Big budget ($500):
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Empathy
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:56 |
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Should i take it as a compliment?
Audiophile was a pejorative word maybe? |
No, not meant in the pejorative. Hey, we all have our fetishes! Mine
would be my CD collection and ever-growing musical equipment
collection. I'm not one to criticise!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:33 |
Should i take it as a compliment?
Audiophile was a pejorative word maybe?
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Empathy
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:27 |
Wow, oliverstoned, you give "audiophile" new meaning!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:02 |
Bad sub (featuring a less than 38cm loudspeaker) and/or bad setted.
But with a good sub, it's always better (on good records of course) as it enhances dynamic, image, etc..even with very high end speakers cause it enables to explore extreme low freq.
Another fantastic and surprising effect is that it enhances highs too.
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 10:43 |
I tried 2.1 in the end I reverted back to 2 because if the two speakers are top quality the sub woofer (in my case) only created less clarity , so I stick with two very nice speakers
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 09:45 |
In a pure audio set up, 5.1 provides a far less good image (soundstage) than a good stereo or 2.1 system.
I didn't said that i can afford these cables.
But i'm ready to sacrifice all to get some (on second hand, you can het one for about 500€.)
The improvment is incredible and worth the price.
If you must put only one, you put it on the preamp.
It makes: boom!!
A second on the source.
A third on the amp, etc...
And eventually you put it on every devices and it makes...BOOOOM!!!
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Bob Greece
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 09:34 |
oliverstoned wrote:
At least it's not a 5.1!
Let's dream on serious gear (i currently want to buy extraordinary 1000€/piece "Transparent Super" power cables ):
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What's wrong with 5.1 systems?
1000 Euros for cables? You get paid too much in France.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 09:24 |
Just for the eyes' pleasure:
Top canadians tube amps, (i think there are now discontinued cause too expensive.)
Anyway it's excellent and even better than Conrad Johnson
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 09:08 |
At least it's not a 5.1!
Let's dream on serious gear (i currently want to buy extraordinary 1000€/piece "Transparent Super" power cables ):
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Bob Greece
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 08:18 |
I'm certainly no expert on this but I bought a Creative 2.1 system for 30 Euros and it sounds really great IMO. OliverStoned would probably have an apoplexy if he heard it but it's good for me.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 07:54 |
Adding a good sub (minimum 38cm) on a good system produces a huge inprovment on image, dynamic, matter, low, high, everything.
Here's a cheap but highly musical one:
Magnat Omega 380
PS: forget Rogers, it's crap.
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limeyrob
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 15:59 |
Can I have your advice please.
I am thinking of changing my speakers in the lounge (coming under a lot of pressure from the missus to get some smaller ones).
Anyway I have a pair of Rogers LS6a which I have to say are quite big, but produce a superb base. I know I'll have to compromise but I was looking at a 2.1 system. The speakers I had a quick listen to in the shop was a pair of Linn Classic Unik (which can be wall mounted). They were too bright for me and needed a bit of whoomph so I thought about a subwoofer. The B&W PV1 looks a meaty one and it can be powered by my Audiolab 8000A amp.
Has anyone had any experience in using a 2.1 setup as their main system. I am listening to some Altec Lansing's through my PC. They are OK for PC use but I think I need something extra for the lounge.
I don't think I'm in the market for a full 5.1 upgrade as I don't want to turn the lounge into a home cinema area yet
Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks
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