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For all the senseless deaths. Will this ever stop?

Freak Kitchen - Gun God
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We the people have created
A beast of riches and of health
And cower as we watch this creature 
Granting power to itself

A world is built from other worlds
Divided unity
What will you do with your hands full
Of humanity?

If ye love wealth more than your freedom
The largest hands will grasp at straws
Elude the eye of their employers
And pass their vague officious laws

The din of progress now surrounds us
The voice of freedom is ignored
Endure the theft of the prodigal fathers
Answer to the pen or to the sword

Our constitution has grown weak
Like a field of dying grass
The eagle’s trampled underfoot
By elephant and ass
The statue’s light begins to fade
And all is vanity
What will you do with your hands full
Of humanity?

A Handful of Humanity by Epignosis


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2024 at 02:49

^ I would also expect in Progressive Rock relatively much political interest, broadly defined, as Prog evolved much on basis of the '60s counterculture and its ideology, if not actually being a part of it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2024 at 07:19

Eloy - "Plastic Girl", criticism of plastic, synthetic world with emptiness and people with plastic brains, Floating (1974)

Originally posted by Antoni Antoni wrote:

The lyrics of the song "Plastic People" by Birth Control address the idea that people are becoming increasingly artificial, fake, and consumed by material possessions.

I've been thinking if "plastic" has a particular reference to being consumed by material possessions? It's something I seem to remember from the '70s Denmark too.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2024 at 07:05
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

I think that Progressive Rock as a genre defines itself by the musical style only, rather than the contents/meaning of the songs/lyrics. In prog any contents is possible. So I would expect political contents in progressive rock in about the same amount as can be found in other genres like jazz or pop-rock in general, no more, no less.

As Progressive Rock has been particularly ambitious concerning the art of music, I would also expect it in a broader ideological field.

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^ Outstanding, thanks for your contribution! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (4) Thanks(4)   Quote Antoni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2024 at 23:19
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Interesting thread!
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Genesis - Get em out by Friday
(against commercialism of living space)

Thanks on behalf of all the contributors. I was just about to post this one, but you got a bit ahead of me. Thumbs Up

I also was going to post it, good job!  This is a great thread! 

Isn't much of Kraut Rock driven by political thinking?  Reaction to Nazism in WW2 etc.? 

I'm mostly thinking of Amon Duul 2.  Also, industrial-rock band Einstürzende Neubauten was born out of the political tensions of East vs. West Germany.  
One of the most notable bands to emerge from Krautrock's early days was Floh de Cologne, known for their theatrical performances, being a concert attraction in the late 1960s and early 1970s - Floh de Cologne shared the stage with Jimi Hendrix in 1970 at the Open Air Love & Peace Festival in Fenhmar, former West Germany, which was his last gig - and Marxist political views. The band's name itself, a play on words combining "eau de cologne" with the German word for flea, showcases their satirical and politically charged approach to music.

The lyrics of their songs are overtly political, expressing a clear preference for communist ideals over conforming to societal norms or being complicit in oppressive systems. Along with proudly carrying membership in the German Communist Party (DKP), their attitude also embodied the reaction to Nazism, the spirit of rebellion, and far-left activism, aligning with the broader countercultural sentiments of the era.

Krautrock pioneers Floh de Cologne plays live their song "Sei Ruhig Fließbandbaby" (which means 'Be Quiet Assembly Line Baby') in 1969:




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2024 at 20:57
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Interesting thread!
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Genesis - Get em out by Friday
(against commercialism of living space)

Thanks on behalf of all the contributors. I was just about to post this one, but you got a bit ahead of me. Thumbs Up

I also was going to post it, good job!  This is a great thread! 

Isn't much of Kraut Rock driven by political thinking?  Reaction to Nazism in WW2 etc.? 

I'm mostly thinking of Amon Duul 2.  Also, industrial-rock band Einstürzende Neubauten was born out of the political tensions of East vs. West Germany.  
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The lyrics of the song "Plastic People" by Birth Control address the idea that people are becoming increasingly artificial, fake, and consumed by material possessions.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2024 at 12:08
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Interesting thread!
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Genesis - Get em out by Friday
(against commercialism of living space)

Thanks on behalf of all the contributors. I was just about to post this one, but you got a bit ahead of me. Thumbs Up


Edited by David_D - July 12 2024 at 12:26
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Formentera Lady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2024 at 09:53
Interesting thread!

I think that Progressive Rock as a genre defines itself by the musical style only, rather than the contents/meaning of the songs/lyrics. In prog any contents is possible. So I would expect political contents in progressive rock in about the same amount as can be found in other genres like jazz or pop-rock in general, no more, no less.

Having said that, there are political songs in prog, and you named already a lot in this thread!

Here my favourites:

Oktober - Der Traum des Schmieds
(song with radical left wing agenda)

Yes - I've Seen All Good People
(a song for peace with reference to Instant Karma and Give Peace a Chance by John Lennon)

Supertramp - Fool's Overture

(anti-war)

Marillion - Forgotten Sons
(anti-war)

Genesis - Get em out by Friday
(against commercialism of living space)

Unitopia - Take Good Care

(for peace and environmental protection)

Galahad  - Seas of Change
(anti-Brexit)
see link above Wink
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

Galahad's "Seas of Change" comes to mind.


I was going to say. Here's the full 42 minutes.


"Seas of Change" was my album of the year.  It's by far my favorite Galahad album.  I don't own any other Galahad albums. Wink

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I've made an anti-war neo-prog playlist when the full scale invasion started, check it here
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I guess if one looks hard enough some kind of politics shines through in most art, but I prefer existential lyricism.

I'm not sure, I understand you correctly, but as I see it, political can certainly be existential, like for instance in the lyricism of "Aqualung", "Cross-eyed Mary" and "Lucky Man".
Of course it can be both. I rarely think in absolute terms. I just have a preference. In a nutshell; I generally prefer less political and more existential lyricism. I think I sort of say that in the quote.
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Flower Travellin' Band - "Hiroshima"

Once upon a summer day
In their midst, a mushroom grew
They never saw
They never, never knew

They're walking on the street
Making shadows on the wall
They're sitting on the steps
Melting into stone

Children of the mushroom

Aren't we all, aren't we all


(from the album Made in Japan (1972))

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To me, a good definition of political (in the broadest meaning) is the one concerning everything about organization and functioning of societies on all levels, the way societies act towards each other, how all human life affects the environments, and of course very much 
about all the acting of people in regard to all this. 






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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I guess if one looks hard enough some kind of politics shines through in most art, but I prefer existential lyricism.

I'm not sure, I understand you correctly, but as I see it, political can certainly be existential, like for instance in the lyricism of "Aqualung", "Cross-eyed Mary" and "Lucky Man".



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Out of Focus - Wake Up! (1970), definitely a German political album and of the more radical left-wing kind
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"21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson has lyrics, written by Peter Sinfield, that critique modern society and its fragmentation, drawing parallels with the disintegration of relationships.


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Wond'ring Again

There's the stillness of death on a deathly unliving sea
And the motor car magical world long since ceased to be
When the Eve-bitten apple returned to destroy the tree
Incestuous ancestry's charabanc ride
Spawning new millions throws the world on its side
Supporting their far-flung illusion, the national curse
And those with no sandwiches please get off the bus
The excrement bubbles
The century's slime decays
And the brainwashing government lackeys
Would have us say
It's under control and we'll soon be on our way
To a grand year for babies and quiz panel games
Of the hot hungry millions you'll be sure to remain
The natural resources are dwindling and no one grows old
And those with no homes to go to, please dig yourself holes
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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