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Poll Question: Hey Mister, sing me a story!
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TCat: Can't watch your Ariel Ramirez video, but this one works for me:

Actually that's my number one of yours, I like the relaxed mood.
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I think I'll stick to my first nomination, Sufjan Stevens - Should Have Known Better.
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mathman: Mark Etzel is my winner among yours. Very nice and atmospheric, the other two rather sound as if I heard much of that stuff already (ignoring lyrics of course).

Meltdowner: Estrelo dol Mar is very good and dreamy; Ja chega de ilusoes is a bit of a mess, no?

jamesbaldwin: Francesco de Gregorio: Inventive and surprising, but the turn this takes in the second half isn't my cup of tea. The song of Ivano Fossati works much better for me, very emotional and well balanced between calm verse and more energetic chorus. John Hiatt's song is much more predictable than the Italians, so Fossati is the clear winner here. Carmen Consoli: This isn't exactly an instant winner for me, but at least makes me curious of her other work.

There's too much stuff in life, probably I have no chance to get through them all before the poll begins.

 
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:



Kante “Wo die Flusse Singen”  I did listen first, you’d given a hint of the meaning of the song, so I definitely heard that bit of wistfulness in it.  Then I looked at the translated lyrics.  The song is about (to me) how the everyday survival can sap us, how the world we are truly from, the natural one, is where we belong and how when we express ourselves in this manner, we are revealing our truer nature.  And the writer wanted to share that with this other person, which was a high compliment, truly.  I know for many people music isn’t important to their relationships, it depends on what you are looking for in that respect and may be relative to where you are in your life.  I do know, for me, what someone listens to, what they read, what visual art or films they enjoy, are windows into their souls.  So best relationships have had much in common in that way, in my lifetime, for me.  



I think you pretty much nailed it, except that there are allusions and double meanings and many words are unusual even in German and usually the strange use means something. Do you know some German?  

(Haha, and I said I'm not interested in lyrics... but partly that's true. I'd love the song for the music and sound alone as well.)
  I don't know any German at all, I do have a few friends whose native language is German, but that probably doesn't count.  I do know in some languages, there is just no perfect translation for some words or concepts, though.  
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Again, it's tough for me to decide which one I want to use for voting.  I like them all.  

I think I'll go with Fred Eaglesmith - "Soda Machine"
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Nickie, I was hoping in your opinion about my nominations.
  Oh, I'm sorry I didn't respond to that sooner.  I was thinking that my favourite of these was out of competition (for another reason than Carmen, she being female, of course).  I go with the emotionality of Ivano Fossati.  
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Again, it's tough for me to decide which one I want to use for voting.  I like them all.  

I think I'll go with Fred Eaglesmith - "Soda Machine"

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Nickie, I was hoping in your opinion about my nominations.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:



Kante “Wo die Flusse Singen”  I did listen first, you’d given a hint of the meaning of the song, so I definitely heard that bit of wistfulness in it.  Then I looked at the translated lyrics.  The song is about (to me) how the everyday survival can sap us, how the world we are truly from, the natural one, is where we belong and how when we express ourselves in this manner, we are revealing our truer nature.  And the writer wanted to share that with this other person, which was a high compliment, truly.  I know for many people music isn’t important to their relationships, it depends on what you are looking for in that respect and may be relative to where you are in your life.  I do know, for me, what someone listens to, what they read, what visual art or films they enjoy, are windows into their souls.  So best relationships have had much in common in that way, in my lifetime, for me.  



I think you pretty much nailed it, except that there are allusions and double meanings and many words are unusual even in German and usually the strange use means something. Do you know some German?

(Haha, and I said I'm not interested in lyrics... but partly that's true. I'd love the song for the music and sound alone as well.)
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Actually the great thing about this poll is that it makes me revisit all this music that I have that fits the bill. As I wrote earlier, it isn't that much, but I have a very strong emotional connection to every single one of these.
  Excellent!  I do thank you for your input and expanding my horizons, as well.
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Thank you, both Samuel/Meltdowner and Suitkees.  Duly updated and noted.  Smile
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My nomination is Lluis Llach's L'Estaca, was it only for its historical significance, that still resonates today.

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

A further one that I'm not going to nominate, just to add some more German stuff after all the Italian delight.
Kante did more sophisticated arrangements than Blumfeld, whereas Blumfeld focused more on voice and lyrics, although Kante have some very melodic voice-oriented stuff as well.

The somewhat sad personal background story to this one is that my girlfriend at the time and I were big fans of the previous Kante album Zweilicht. When this one came out, we heard it first on the radio independently of each other (there was a very similar but less sad story with another lady in an earlier poll). I thought that this is one of the very best love songs I ever heard, with very moving but still occasionally surprising and interesting lyrics, and I also fell for the melody and arrangement. When we met, however, she said (before I had talked about it) "have you heard the new Kante song? It doesn't tell me anything, I'm very disappointed". I was shocked and couldn't make sense of it, because of course I had thought of her when I had listened to it. I tried to ignore this in the following because obviously in a couple you don't have to love the same music. But still, it was hard to accept this. It turned out that actually it was the first indication that I remember that something wasn't quite right anymore between us; the relationship afterwards still went on for a few years from then but other things happened and emotionally the distance became bigger and bigger, eventually leading to separation. Music is important, and now I think it meant something that we disagreed so strongly on this song.

I still think this is marvellous, but I don't connect it to anyone in particular anymore. And I'd say it has a very northern German feel.

I was thinking about translating a few lines, but I don't manage to translate the more original and lyrical stuff so that it comes anywhere near making the same sense in English than in German. The title means "where the rivers sing" and they go on "I want to spend my time with you". This isn't that exciting, but there's also "I want to spend my time with you in the realm of the informal economy where the rumours circulate" and other weird  stuff... hahaha, maybe that lady was right and it all doesn't make any sense. Wink

Kante “Wo die Flusse Singen”  I did listen first, you’d given a hint of the meaning of the song, so I definitely heard that bit of wistfulness in it.  Then I looked at the translated lyrics.  The song is about (to me) how the everyday survival can sap us, how the world we are truly from, the natural one, is where we belong and how when we express ourselves in this manner, we are revealing our truer nature.  And the writer wanted to share that with this other person, which was a high compliment, truly.  I know for many people music isn’t important to their relationships, it depends on what you are looking for in that respect and may be relative to where you are in your life.  I do know, for me, what someone listens to, what they read, what visual art or films they enjoy, are windows into their souls.  So best relationships have had much in common in that way, in my lifetime, for me.  
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My nomination is still "Jorge Palma - Estrela do Mar". I'm Samuel (or Sam), by the way. I actually don't like my username anymore (it sounded cool when I was 18), it always seems odd to be called by it Embarrassed
I haven't had much time or energy for music lately, I hope I'll be able to at least hear the nominees this weekend.

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I always have the impression that what I have to say doesn't interest anyone.
I always find your posts interesting. Even though we have different taste in Prog, I sometimes find something very much to my liking, like Ut Gret or iNFiNiEN the other day.
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Actually the great thing about this poll is that it makes me revisit all this music that I have that fits the bill. As I wrote earlier, it isn't that much, but I have a very strong emotional connection to every single one of these.
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A further one that I'm not going to nominate, just to add some more German stuff after all the Italian delight.
Actually this band, Kante, were together with Blumfeld leaders of what in the 1990s was called "new Hamburg school", although this song is quite different from the Blumfeld one posted earlier. New Hamburg school was a rather relaxed approach to music (here apparent in the singing, which is more typical for new Hamburg school than Jochen Distelmeyer's distinctive voice in Blumfeld) with focus on the often somewhat intellectual lyrics and message, often melodic (although that's Blumfeld and Kante more than the others), taking in influences from music such as post rock but also singer/songwriter style.

Kante did more sophisticated arrangements than Blumfeld, whereas Blumfeld focused more on voice and lyrics, although Kante have some very melodic voice-oriented stuff as well.

The somewhat sad personal background story to this one is that my girlfriend at the time and I were big fans of the previous Kante album Zweilicht. When this one came out, we heard it first on the radio independently of each other (there was a very similar but less sad story with another lady in an earlier poll). I thought that this is one of the very best love songs I ever heard, with very moving but still occasionally surprising and interesting lyrics, and I also fell for the melody and arrangement. When we met, however, she said (before I had talked about it) "have you heard the new Kante song? It doesn't tell me anything, I'm very disappointed". I was shocked and couldn't make sense of it, because of course I had thought of her when I had listened to it. I tried to ignore this in the following because obviously in a couple you don't have to love the same music. But still, it was hard to accept this. It turned out that actually it was the first indication that I remember that something wasn't quite right anymore between us; the relationship afterwards still went on for a few years from then but other things happened and emotionally the distance became bigger and bigger, eventually leading to separation. Music is important, and now I think it meant something that we disagreed so strongly on this song.
I still think this is marvellous, but I don't connect it to anyone in particular anymore. And I'd say it has a very northern German feel.

I was thinking about translating a few lines, but I don't manage to translate the more original and lyrical stuff so that it comes anywhere near making the same sense in English than in German. The title means "where the rivers sing" and they go on "I want to spend my time with you". This isn't that exciting, but there's also "I want to spend my time with you in the realm of the informal economy where the rumours circulate" and other weird  stuff... hahaha, maybe that lady was right and it all doesn't make any sense. Wink



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A reminder to all that I will craft the poll for voting tomorrow, please get any new nominees in today if you can and also make your final selection of your choice for the poll and let me know.
List of Contributors So Far (if I only use your forum name and you'd like me to use your real name, let me know for certain what that name is, sorry, my brain only seems capable of learning one or two a day from the aliases).  You may want to just quote this post and add your nominee when you are ready, I'll add in to here from regular posts with final nominees if that is easier for you, as well.
 
Nickie Richard Shindell "Wisteria"

Logan (Greg): Nick Drake “Fruit Tree”  

Scott: Bob Seger “Glenn Song”  

George: Mark Eitzel “If You Have to Ask”  

Meltdowner (Sam)   "Jorge Palma - Estrela do Mar"

Lewian  Surfjan Stevens “Should Have Known Better”  

Lorenzo: Francesco De Gregori “Rumore di niente” 

Mike: Fred Eaglesmith “Soda Machine” 


Suitkees: Lluis Llach's L'Estaca

The Dark Elf (Greg): 

Holy Moly

Cristi: Frankie Miller “With You In Mind”  

Dr Wu2:  Elliott Smith “Miss Misery”



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Lewian:  .  Martyn Bates “First and Last of February” Very different feel to this one, the production has a sort of psych wash of sound going on, will be looking into more of his music.  
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Here's another one I love. Martyn Bates: First and Last of February.
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More thoughts on Lewian's and George's and also new to the fray, The Dark Elf & HolyMoly:

Lewian:  Blumfeld, “Eintragung ins Nichts” (a zen entry, in other words, not an entry, but wanted to share).  Pretty upbeat, despite the fact that it’s sort of about there’s nothing we can really do about our existence, in some ways (other than enjoy it, hopefully).  Good mover, as I would say, catchy.

George:  Tom Lehrer “New Math”  He was so hilarious!   And right on, too.  😊  Tim Minchin “You Grew On Me”  I love funny songs!  And so relatable, falling for the wrong person.  We’ve all done it, most likely.  I know I have.  Steve Martin “Late for School” We carried him on our buses, thanks to our lead driver, Jack Lapp.  Class act on all levels.  Loved hearing the dogs barking in the song.  Sounds like one of those nightmares about school.   

The Dark Elf: John Prine “Paradise”  Wonderful song by a true American original.  Jim Croce “Time In A Bottle,” such a sad story with him, he was poised so perfectly in those times and died so young.  Prescient, that he wrote this beautiful song.  Son McLean “Vincent.”  Another gorgeous song, telling the story of Vincent Van Gogh.  I know all three of these, but I’m old!  I hope that others discover these gems because you posted them here.

Holy Moly:  Jandek “Down In A Mirror”  Wow!  A spooky song!  The guitar kind of almost off key and so fitting for the ambience this guy is creating.  Great atmosphere, well done.  
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