Do you believe in man-made global warming?

... as long as America does take stupid to a whole new level, like by electing a climate change denier to a position of power and influence, we'll be fine...

Logan wrote: Of course I felt pretty silly even doing this topic since the evidence is so overwhelming, and I tried to approach it with some humour (of the absurdist kind). There has been some conspiracy when it's come to man induced greenhouse warming deniers. I would love to move on, but I think humanity must ask itself one very important question, how do we convince Ted Nugent? "Global warming is a fraud. Watch Glenn Beck" (Ted Nugent).

I'd be more concerned about convincing Donald Trump. Nugent was a no one even when he was a 'someone'....

I have to say, though, I'm kind of on George Carlins page regarding "white bourgeois liberals" who want to 'save the planet' The planet is absolutely fine, it's the people who are f***ed.

It's real. There's no conspiracy. The evidence has been verified and published and this debate is effectivey over. It's only kept alive by people like Alex Jones, Donald Trump and David Icke.

Time to move on.

Yes, there's scientific proof that technological advancements since the industrial age have at least partly caused global warming. There is, however, also a pattern of climate change that the Earth has naturally gone in, so it's not like we've completely altered the atmosphere. To believe humans have the power to do that in such a relatively short time is absurd.

I would say the term Climate Change is not ideal because the climate does change over time and has nothing to do with man, but that is a somewhat different discussion.   Emissions that cause ozone damage do exist and clearly have a marked impact.   Pollution in general is a big problem we've always faced, even before the industrial era.

My question is, how did Los Angeles clean up their air?   When I was a kid and you'd fly in to L.A. you literally could not see it from the air due to the massive brown cloud that perpetually hung over the city.   Now the smog is much less visible except on certain days.   De-industrialization? (in SoCal, really?).   Fewer cars on the road? (let's be serious).   I mean I know they probably had some EPA mandate to do something but it was a pretty impressive clean-up in a fairly short time.




Edited by Atavachron - January 04 2017 at 19:35

Read the poll question before voting. I'm amazed at how many people deny the evidence for man-made (or shall I at least say sped up by industrial technology) global (greenhouse) warming, and I'm very skeptical about the motives of many of them when they do. I don't quite like the term man-made, but I think you know what I mean.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive" (Donald Trump).

Yes, I do think he's full of hot air. It doesn't make historical sense either, since the concept of greenhouse gasses/ man induced climate change and global warming is such an old one.

I watched this whole debate on youtube earlier, but here's the relevant bit:



Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts has said "It is clear that climate change is a scam" and has said that NASA has corrupted data, there is no empirical evidence that people are causing global warming, and the climate models are wrong.