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Padraic
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:22 |
I know people often quote the mission of the site as being the ultimate "prog resource", but are we honestly losing any credibility by not having Dire Straits listed here, despite even a single album's possible prog credentials? With the full discog rule I think such things ultimately create too many headaches. And I think prog-related has gotten beyond the scope of its intention anyway, mostly because there's disgareement on what purpose it should serve in the first place.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:21 |
rushfan4 wrote:
ADII's Yeti is one of my least favorite albums in my collection. When I listened to it a couple of months ago it was a little better than I had remembered it, but I still thought that the vocals were just dreadful.
Was it instrumentally acceptable though? You may need to try different Krautrock.
As far as Dire Straits goes, I do support their addition to Prog Related strictly based on Love Over Gold and a few other proggy moments scattered throughout their discography, however, I won't lose any sleep over it if they are rejected. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:20 |
My next project will have music I wrote almost seven years ago, never really wrote down, but still have remembered all this time, which means I must really like it.
There will only be three songs this time around- one long one followed by two half-long ones. I'm doing the "Yes" thing.
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:20 |
ADII's Yeti is one of my least favorite albums in my collection. When I listened to it a couple of months ago it was a little better than I had remembered it, but I still thought that the vocals were just dreadful.
As far as Dire Straits goes, I do support their addition to Prog Related strictly based on Love Over Gold and a few other proggy moments scattered throughout their discography, however, I won't lose any sleep over it if they are rejected.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:19 |
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
I agree that I don't really think they're prog, but the suggestion was for prog-related, and I entirely agree with some of the points that Roblov was bringing to the table. I thought he argued his point very well.
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Prog, prog-related...no. Dire Straits is neither, with all due respect to Rob. And I love Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits.
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I would never lobby for them to be included in prog-related; I just said that he argued his point very well. I'm not really too particular on whether they should or shouldn't be added to prog- related. Doesn't really matter to me, and I'm not familiar enough with them to say for sure.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:17 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:17 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
I agree that I don't really think they're prog, but the suggestion was for prog-related, and I entirely agree with some of the points that Roblov was bringing to the table. I thought he argued his point very well.
| Prog, prog-related...no. Dire Straits is neither, with all due respect to Rob. And I love Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits.
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Padraic
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:15 |
Just make sure it fits within a PA subgenre you n00b.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:14 |
I'm so glad it's summer. I'm starting to get really excited about COAM's new album. I mean, I absolutely loved my In/Ex Anima concept series, but now I'm starting to feel that this next one could be the breakthrough album that I've been wanting---hopefully gaining more exposure as well. If everything continues to go the way it has been, it will be the first album of mine that I rate a perfect 10 (as opposed to somewhere in the high 9.something's ).
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:11 |
Padraic wrote:
Haven't been much in a PT mood myself in a long while. But their albums are quite enjoyable.
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Definitely. Not sure which era I prefer anymore. I used to like Deadwing the most, but over time my tastes switched again on my album preferences. Now I just say they're all pretty good, which is true for the most part.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:10 |
I agree that I don't really think they're prog, but the suggestion was for prog-related, and I entirely agree with some of the points that Roblov was bringing to the table. I thought he argued his point very well.
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Padraic
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:10 |
Haven't been much in a PT mood myself in a long while. But their albums are quite enjoyable.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:09 |
Epignosis wrote:
I've got Deadwing going. It suits the mood of the shorty I'm trying to finish writing.
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I haven't listened to that in a while. My tastes are kinda changing lately... well, not so much changing, but making a cycle. I haven't been in the mood to listen to PT, and I don't think I will be for a while.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:07 |
Padraic wrote:
Yeah, I've only heard Tago and I really disliked it. I'm willing to try a couple more times, but there's something about it that I just can't enjoy.
Do check out Neu!, I think you will really enjoy them. Lot of atmospherics.
It's odd - you're not that into krautrock yet, but your band has a ton of krautrock influence to my ears.
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Yeah, I never realized that... especially when I was composing In Anima and most of Ex Anima, I was practically not familiar with Krautrock almost at ALL. But now that I'm becoming more familiar with it, I can see some similarities. When I'm composing I try to do something completely new, so it may even be possible that my direct influences are nil. As for Can: Check out Ege Bamyasi. It's much better, IMO, and shorter so that it's easier to digest. Keep trying on Tago though; give it a break for like 5 months. That's what I did. And I shall definitely check out Neu! after ADII and Can, I'm thinking.
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:05 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Keppa4v wrote:
Brothers in Arms
That fierce Straits battle in the suggestion area inspired me to give them a listen today. I forgot them and their On the Night live album when answering the 5 albums that changed your life thingy. Straits acted very much as the gateway from metal/punk to distortionless music, which I credited to Absoluuttinen Nollapiste in the thread. |
I'm actually not too familiar with Dire Straits, but I have enjoyed reading that thread. There were some interesting points brought up.
| Dire Straits is amazing. "Sultans of Swing" was the first song I played and sang in front of a crowd.
But prog though? Come on...
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:05 |
I've got Deadwing going. It suits the mood of the shorty I'm trying to finish writing.
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Padraic
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:04 |
Yeah, I've only heard Tago and I really disliked it. I'm willing to try a couple more times, but there's something about it that I just can't enjoy.
Do check out Neu!, I think you will really enjoy them. Lot of atmospherics.
It's odd - you're not that into krautrock yet, but your band has a ton of krautrock influence to my ears.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:04 |
Keppa4v wrote:
Brothers in Arms
That fierce Straits battle in the suggestion area inspired me to give them a listen today. I forgot them and their On the Night live album when answering the 5 albums that changed your life thingy. Straits acted very much as the gateway from metal/punk to distortionless music, which I credited to Absoluuttinen Nollapiste in the thread. |
I'm actually not too familiar with Dire Straits, but I have enjoyed reading that thread. There were some interesting points brought up.
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Pekka
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:02 |
Brothers in Arms
That fierce Straits battle in the suggestion area inspired me to give them a listen today. I forgot them and their On the Night live album when answering the 5 albums that changed your life thingy. Straits acted very much as the gateway from metal/punk to distortionless music, which I credited to Absoluuttinen Nollapiste in the thread.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:01 |
Padraic wrote:
Yeti. Definitely is sounding better to me on this play. Right now if I had to pick a favorite krautrock band it would absolutely be ADII.
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Awesome. I'll definitely have to do that. Which Can album(s) have you heard? Just Tago? I love Tago now, but it is too overlong for its own good.
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