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Bonnek wrote:

Just posted this an Amon Duul thread but it's such a fine read.You might put Yeti or Tanz on while reading, it's a boggling 7 pages long Smile

http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/60/?pageno=1

The information about the Utopia album in this article is incorrect. Utopia was the result of a split; there had been fights and threats with guns and knives within the band, and so while one half set off to record "Wolf City" the other went to record the Utopia album. They did, however, use the same studio, and so it came to pass that they made peace again, and all musicians played on both albums. And one track ("Deutsch Nepal") was loved so much by both factions that they both wanted to have it on their album.
This story and a lot more about Amon Düül and Amon Düül 2 can be found in "Tanz der Lemminge", a biography of the Düüls written by journalist Ingeborg Schober; she and her boyfriend Rüdiger Nüchtern were close friends of Amon Düül 2, and Nüchtern shot a movie of the band playing "Phallus Dei". I highy recommendthe book.

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Read this back in '96. Don't care very much for The Wire. It's just as bad as Rolling Stone if you ask me. I like the way Renate denies tht she was ever a hippie.

Faust's debut was my first album I listened to from Faust. It was...really weird. It was so weird that I did not want to listen to it anymore. Why Don't You Eat Carrots was really disturbing to me at the time. Meadow Meal had a sweet guitar part, but then the raining part was just plain random. Miss Fortune was too much for me. I did not want to touch Faust music. Then I gave them another try when I saw a Faust IV cd at my local record store. Because of Faust IV, I now like Faust's debut album. It really is a weird album, but Faust "ruined" my taste for music! I am forced to listen to their circus-like rock sound, and their harsh sharp noise/static. The first Faust album really is a good album, if you can get into the Faust sound!

I do like the rain part now! Smoke

After watching this video, I wanted to play music that was heavy, but in a sort of free form jam sound. I started banging the drums heavily, but with that slow, laid back kind of feeling to the drums. My friend could not keep up with my drumming, and said I was too experimental for her. Cry

I wish music could be more like this! Serious musicians having fun, and experimenting with sound...

Cool, thanks for reposting the Krautrock documentary so the newbies can learn a little history about the genre. Wink

So last Thursday I gave my Krautrock speech for my public speaking class. I hope they enjoyed my speech and presentation. I gave them a brief history of the genre, and the sound, with some of the important "kraut" bands. So, for this week, we should share our favorite Krautrock songs from the "classic" kraut bands: Amon Duul II, Ash Ra Tempel, CAN, Faust, Neu!.

Now... let Krautrock week commence!

Very good documentary! I have watched it before 3 months I think.

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Golem are very good!

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moshkito,

Hi, I've seen that documentary before, that film inspired me to listen to Krautrock. The history behind it was so fascinating. Their music was so out there, it was simple, yet catchy. It was harsh, and relentless. Neu! is a 2 man group, but created a whole band. The simplicity to their music was so trance like. But I am re-watching the documentary, and I'm on part 3 right now. I like how they were considered, "experimenters" instead of musicians. Because that is what they did. They were non-musicians making music. On an interview with Drummer Jaki Liebezeit he was comparing music to the game of soccer. How you have to know the rules of the game, but as a player, you have to have that free form when you play. I feel as though from these 2 quotes, all the German people felt that same sense, that they were experimenters, and they could do whatever they wanted, but following the rules of music.

The Wrinkler wrote:

Hello Krautrockers,

It's been awhile since I've posted on here, but I was off exploring some new music. I'm doing an informative speech on Krautrock for my public speaking class, and I've been trying to organize what I'm going to talk about, and gathering information. One of the things I get to do is show a one minute clip or audioclip. But who was the band to speak for the whole Krautrock genre? In Krautrock, Amon Duul II, CAN, Faust, and Neu! we were the big names. I wanted to play something accessible to the class, while demonstrating the Krautrock sound, something to inspire them to want to explore the genre, or at least listen to my speech. Which led me to look into Neu!.

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I highly recommend that you see the Krautrock Special that is on the net in 6 parts ... that first part is incendiary ... like those days.

What you will find, is that your start is gonna change, since you could quickly connect this to film, painting, theater and other arts ... the connection of which we don't like to investigate ... as it is way too big ... but it explains a lot of things.

All in all, after you hear Edgar's words about this, think of Jean Luc Godard a few years earlier doing what he called "anti-film" ... and in the end, my term is that almost all of this is "anti-music" ... with a heavy accent on what Edgar Froese was stating ...

You have to start with "nothing" ... instead of an idea ... and that was the point that got many of these going ... and it's hard for us to accept because we think that "nothing" means we're dead or stupid! The idea is ... that when you start with "YOU", you can find something in the mirror ... if you are starting with an idea ... the image in the mirror is out of focus and mixed ... because any idea is a filter! (using an analogy for you!)

I don't think that the bands themselves are more important than the rest of the arts around them ... and this is the most important part of it all ... with the difference that there were more artists that helped make this whole thing visible, and establish it, than otherwise ... and the media and press be darned and damned ... and check out the names of the music folks, classical and otherwise, and then the names of the writers and film makers. And then realize how many people here have not seen much of anything in that area to get a stronger perspective. Peter Handke was doing with words and letters the same thing that Damo did - which suggests that Damo was well aware of the theater and film scenes and this is what he wanted to try and do, and he had amazing courage to go out, and then do it!

Please see that special ... by the time you hear the strands of "All Along the Watchtower" ... I had tears in my eyes ... it was hard to believe that someone could ... with a few images ... explain a lot of this work so well! AND so clearly, which is something that we have a hard time appreciating and studying ... and imagine ... what an anthem Epitath is with the same image and situation!

Edited by moshkito - April 14 2011 at 16:13

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