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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:46
Klaus Schulze's music is going to be even harder to get high on my last.fm charts than Tangerine Dream. That's insane. LOL

Oh well, it's naturally fix itself out over so much time, I imagine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:45
Now Guapo's Black Oni is much more my thing.  Noisy, evocative and much like Alex's reaction to Mirage (not the Camel release!), I also feel like it puts me in another world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:44
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

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This is best Shred ever. So much talk about TD, I'm bursting with joy.  LOL


It is kinda nice, isn't it?

I'm glad I have someone else to talk about electronic music with. Big smile


Tell me about it, I'm frankly shocked. ShockedLOL

Was a member on TD's forums for a while, but I dumped the place after a group of uber-posters (we're tiny kids compared to them) started monopolizing the thread, and were super-optimistic with everything TD had or was releasing, including the obvious garbage.





I actually lurked PA from early 2005 (I remember the Octavarium deal when it first came out) until late 2007, and I lurked a couple other sites (TD's included). I never joined them though because of fans and posters like that, and because I never have any motivation to. I stopped luring at those after a while and just concentrated here when I noticed that it had the perfect base of posters on it and all the music that I enjoyed talking about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:41
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I think Alex will also enjoy Eno's Music for Bored People in Lifts and Airports.


I checked out some Eno a long time ago, but it didn't immediately hit me because I wasn't really in the mood to fully discover it, I guess. I'm going to have to do that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:40
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I don't like Jazz From Hell. It's better than the 83-84-85 stuff overall, but I can't get over the midi-sounds and improvisations. It's not what I liked about Zappa up to this point.


I love Jazz from Hell. It's my favorite Synclavier recording of his, but I can see why others wouldn't like it. It's an acquired taste for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:39
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Oh brother. LOL

The krautrock debuts, Dune from 1979, Live from 1980, Dig It from 1981; Audentity from 1984; Dreams from 1986. From here on, I wouldn't know how you can relate the Schulze's new styles during the 90s, so you'll have to taste a bit yourself, and tell me if you find it okay, so I can continue with recommendations.

Essentially though, Schulze found a better compromise of light music than TD during the 90s. It's not even light in fact, I call it "sampler music", with lots of collages and programming, rather than just "melody & beat".




Sounds good.

Mirage is bloody amazing so far. See... I first got into Schulze like 3 years ago, and I thought it was neat... but I never listened to him much after I ended up getting into other stuff like The Flower Kings, Marillion, Gryphon, and tons of others.

For some reason I just kept putting off listening to him again. And now that I realized I had gone too long without listening to TD, I realized I went even longer than that without listening to Schulze. So it's almost like I'm discovering him for the first time.


Mirage is exceptional. Beautiful music to the fiber. In fact, my mom was very impressed by it as well. The way Crystal Lake started left her speechless.

It is absolutely beautiful, definitely. I love it, because it's like discovering a completely new world or galaxy in my head (since I vaguely picture music when listening to it). Hug


Otherwise, she says Schulze music is "from a distant, God-less planet". Which means bad only in her mind, as I absolutely love the description. LOL

Haha, yeah... my mom would hate this stuff. LOL

Her least favorites are Meshuggah and Gentle Giant. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:38
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

This is best Shred ever. So much talk about TD, I'm bursting with joy.  LOL


It is kinda nice, isn't it?

I'm glad I have someone else to talk about electronic music with. Big smile


Tell me about it, I'm frankly shocked. ShockedLOL

Was a member on TD's forums for a while, but I dumped the place after a group of uber-posters (we're tiny kids compared to them) started monopolizing the thread, and were super-optimistic with everything TD had or was releasing, including the obvious garbage.




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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

This is best Shred ever. So much talk about TD, I'm bursting with joy.  LOL


It is kinda nice, isn't it?

I'm glad I have someone else to talk about electronic music with. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:35
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And damn it, the bass solo in the Trilogie au Trianon version of M.D.K. is amazing.


Agreed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:34
I don't like Jazz From Hell. It's better than the 83-84-85 stuff overall, but I can't get over the midi-sounds and improvisations. It's not what I liked about Zappa up to this point.
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I think Alex will also enjoy Eno's Music for Bored People in Lifts and Airports.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:33
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I have Moondawn.


Ah, so that's the one you hated. Tongue


I wouldn't say I hated it, but there wasn't anything about it that made me want to listen to it again.
More a bored sort of "meh" than a passionate dislike.


That's understandable. That's how I felt about Camel.

I absolutely love electronic music though; it's always been alluring to me, and I'm glad I'm finally fully starting to immerse myself into some more that I didn't have before because I was sidetracked by other stuff. You can hear my love for it on In Anima mostly; that was my version of doing electronic music in a completely unique way to an extent in order to support a series of visions I had in my head to a very abstract storyline.
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Oh brother. LOL

The krautrock debuts, Dune from 1979, Live from 1980, Dig It from 1981; Audentity from 1984; Dreams from 1986. From here on, I wouldn't know how you can relate the Schulze's new styles during the 90s, so you'll have to taste a bit yourself, and tell me if you find it okay, so I can continue with recommendations.

Essentially though, Schulze found a better compromise of light music than TD during the 90s. It's not even light in fact, I call it "sampler music", with lots of collages and programming, rather than just "melody & beat".




Sounds good.

Mirage is bloody amazing so far. See... I first got into Schulze like 3 years ago, and I thought it was neat... but I never listened to him much after I ended up getting into other stuff like The Flower Kings, Marillion, Gryphon, and tons of others.

For some reason I just kept putting off listening to him again. And now that I realized I had gone too long without listening to TD, I realized I went even longer than that without listening to Schulze. So it's almost like I'm discovering him for the first time.


Mirage is exceptional. Beautiful music to the fiber. In fact, my mom was very impressed by it as well. The way Crystal Lake started left her speechless.

Otherwise, she says Schulze music is "from a distant, God-less planet". Which means bad only in her mind, as I absolutely love the description. LOL
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Oh brother. LOL

The krautrock debuts, Dune from 1979, Live from 1980, Dig It from 1981; Audentity from 1984; Dreams from 1986. From here on, I wouldn't know how you can relate the Schulze's new styles during the 90s, so you'll have to taste a bit yourself, and tell me if you find it okay, so I can continue with recommendations.

Essentially though, Schulze found a better compromise of light music than TD during the 90s. It's not even light in fact, I call it "sampler music", with lots of collages and programming, rather than just "melody & beat".




Sounds good.

Mirage is bloody amazing so far. See... I first got into Schulze like 3 years ago, and I thought it was neat... but I never listened to him much after I ended up getting into other stuff like The Flower Kings, Marillion, Gryphon, and tons of others.

For some reason I just kept putting off listening to him again. And now that I realized I had gone too long without listening to TD, I realized I went even longer than that without listening to Schulze. So it's almost like I'm discovering him for the first time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:31
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Tangerine Duul LOL


Says the Hammga fan. Wink
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Tangerine Duul LOL
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This is best Shred ever. So much talk about TD, I'm bursting with joy.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:28
And damn it, the bass solo in the Trilogie au Trianon version of M.D.K. is amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:27
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I have Moondawn.


Ah, so that's the one you hated. Tongue


I wouldn't say I hated it, but there wasn't anything about it that made me want to listen to it again.
More a bored sort of "meh" than a passionate dislike.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 14:27
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I pretty much fell asleep through Zeit.  It was incredibly boring.


To each his own.

I personally love it. It's a great example of music that is incredibly economical and minimalistic, yet still completely artistic and enthralling.


Absolutely.

Yes, it can be very boring to non-electronic tasters. So much ambient going there, but it's all dark, inner-pulsating, cosmic and spine-shivering.

There's a lesser drone taste in Zeit than in Schulze's Cyborg, and the latter is fully mechanical, while Zeit is like a space symphony, with very depressive tones and all that.

I'm going to do Schulze after this Coltrane album. I only have a few of his though.


What what what?



I haven't listened to Schulze in a while, so I'm going to listen to him next.


What Schulze album, brother? Wink


Hmmm.. well, Coltrane just now finished, and I haven't decided yet.

I think I'll go with... Mirage first. What do you suggest after that? I have Timewind, X, Blackdance, and Moondawn as well.


Only those?

Well Timewind is like taking a trip back to the past compared to Mirage, while Moondawn is in the same style to both, only tad inferior. X is two hours, so I would go for Blackdance.

...surprisingly.


Okay.

Which other albums do I need?


Oh brother. LOL

The krautrock debuts, Dune from 1979, Live from 1980, Dig It from 1981; Audentity from 1984; Dreams from 1986. From here on, I wouldn't know how you can relate the Schulze's new styles during the 90s, so you'll have to taste a bit yourself, and tell me if you find it okay, so I can continue with recommendations.

Essentially though, Schulze found a better compromise of light music than TD during the 90s. It's not even light in fact, I call it "sampler music", with lots of collages and programming, rather than just "melody & beat".


The krautrock debuts, Dune
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