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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 05:50

Prince Charles tests positive for novel coronavirus

By Emma Reynolds, Max Foster and David Wilkinson

Updated 7:39 AM ET, Wed March 25, 2020

London (CNN)Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth II's son and the first in line to the British throne, has tested positive for coronavirus and is now self-isolating in Scotland.

The Prince of Wales is only displaying mild symptoms and is otherwise in good health, Clarence House said in a statement. It is not known how he caught the virus because of his busy schedule of public events in recent weeks.
Buckingham Palace said the Queen remains in "good health." Last Tuesday, the Palace said the 93-year-old monarch was rearranging her diary "as a sensible precaution and for practical reasons in the current circumstances."
The Queen last saw Prince Charles briefly after an investiture ceremony for public awards at Buckingham Palace in London on March 12. A Palace spokeswoman said she was "following all the appropriate advice with regard to her welfare."
Prince Charles had a number of private meetings following the March 12 event with Highgrove and Duchy individuals, all of whom have been made aware


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 05:44

Last night on Fox News, Fox "analyst" Laura Ingram was interviewing Dr. Fauci , who's in charge of the Fed's medical containment program, and she said that the malaria treatment was safe and was prescribed by numerous doctors across the US for malaria treatment. How many people in the non tropical United States have f**king malaria? These people should be prosecuted for their lies and giving people false hope all in order to save Trump's precious economy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 05:27
Originally posted by rayraysh rayraysh wrote:

So many people believe CBD oil can help them to deal with the virus. Do you believe?
No, because it's complete bollocks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 05:22
I heard snake oil is an excellent treatment against the Corona virus. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 03:55
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

If my home computer broke for any reason I won't be able to replace it.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Amazon and other companies are still delivering anything you might want to buy. Whether they should be is a question, but they are.

I'm sure you've already got your data backed up, but if not now would be the time. Should be possible to do this in the cloud if you don't have an external hard drive. Or buy one from Amazon.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 03:49
Trump is touting about having people back to work by Easter Sunday and is waxing poetic about packing the churches. Encouragement from his supporters in the Religious Right, no doubt. They're loosing money worse than big businesses.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 03:46
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Yeah, he's had battles with Trump but said yesterday that it was financially unviable to keep the city shutdown forever. He's mulling over some options. It is NYC , after all.
My mistake. Cuomo was referring to unaffected areas in upstate NY, which makes more sense as NYC is the nation's leading C-19 "hot zone". (Lucky me. Confused)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 03:34
Police in the UK had to break up a BBQ yesterday (eventually by kicking over the actual bbq as people wouldn't take any notice of them). What is wrong with these idiots?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 02:53
That was helpful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 02:36
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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Is there any reason you couldn't do that accounting work from home? All data you need should be available in a company network, and it would be its responsibility to see that you have access. Why should this be your decision?

I wonder what would happen if companies were given the responsibility of declaring themselves essential or not, and if they think they are, they would be held accountable (no pun intended) for their decision. Why should individual employees be burdened with the responsibility of deciding that?
 

There isn't and I am indeed working from home , I just was not sure what was regarded as 'essential'. So many things are linked . People need to be paid. If my home computer broke for any reason I won't be able to replace it. Then what do I do? 

Just about to “go” to work, but examining each of your sentences:

Neither is anybody else

Yes, they are

Yes, they do

No, you wouldn’t 

You’d be f**ked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2020 at 02:20
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Is there any reason you couldn't do that accounting work from home? All data you need should be available in a company network, and it would be its responsibility to see that you have access. Why should this be your decision?

I wonder what would happen if companies were given the responsibility of declaring themselves essential or not, and if they think they are, they would be held accountable (no pun intended) for their decision. Why should individual employees be burdened with the responsibility of deciding that?
 

There isn't and I am indeed working from home , I just was not sure what was regarded as 'essential'. So many things are linked . People need to be paid. If my home computer broke for any reason I won't be able to replace it. Then what do I do? 
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Why does the UK and NYC allow subway riders to be packed like sardines during this?

The “subway” in London (Underground or Tube in our vernacular) is under the control of Transport for London, which is directly answerable to the Mayor of London, a chap by the name of Sadiq Khan.

Khan is one of those politicians who has been urging UK government to adopt extremely strict quarantine measures for a little while now, only just short of flogging miscreants and hurling them in the Thames. It was his idea to reduce the number of trains running on the Underground to a minimal service in order to discourage his citizens from travelling and spreading the virus, and also to look as if “he was doing something”, always a dangerous proposition in most people like that. Of course, from the law of unintended consequences, although pretty much predictable, there are fewer people,travelling, but still in their massed hordes on fewer trains.

The UK government had absolutely nothing to do with that decision. They are, however, culpable for issuing a ban on all commutes to work for jobs that are not essential or cannot be done from home, without specifying precisely what it regards as an essential job. Policy is being made on the hoof, and it was, again, entirely predictable that there is both confusion over what is deemed to be an essential job, and many private sector bosses deeming their work so utterly essential that it forced employees to come to work in sectors such as construction and retail. The decision to run fewer trains and carriages was that of the train operating companies, then still under private control, before being effectively renationalised.

In terms of the essence of your question, why do they allow things to happen, this suggests to me the usual issue of people expecting governments to do something. The expectation that those in charge have some magical powers in order to make things better and to take responsibility when things go wrong (this being a hilarious proposition to anybody versed in political history).

Those in government are human beings the same as the rest of us. They have exactly the same feelings, skills, faults, and stupidity as the rest of us, excepting that most of them have narcissistic tendencies somewhat higher than the average citizen - that is why most of them are there. They do not really have much of a clue how to run a country. Neither, in fact, do most of their officials have much of an idea how to run their departments. It is the reason why this modern childish idea, mainly fostered by the media, that somebody must do something is inherently dangerous, and the concept of individual responsibility diminishing equally so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 20:09
Why does the UK and NYC allow subway riders to be packed like sardines during this?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 15:57
@ King of Loss: I think one of the main problems is that Trump tends to ONLY listen to his economic advisors.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 15:24
Report from Czech Republic.

*1289 cases
* 8 recovered
* 2 dead (one of them 95 year old)

We have partial quarantine, closed borders. Compulsory wearing of face masks when in public. Ban on gatherings (except family). A lot of unnecessary business closed unfortunately.


I've been working as a policeman since 2014, so it's actually my job to enforce that the rules are being followed. So far, so good. People are kind, pleasant even.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 15:15
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Trump definitely seems to care more about the economy and big business and protecting them than saving human lives. 

The numbers of the economy are all red flags that we're heading towards a depression, especially if it lasts for longer than a few months. He doesn't want to be remembered as the second coming of Herbert Hoover!

For one thing I doubt he even knows who HH was. Other than that I seriously doubt he cares. You act as though he's a normal person. Trust me. He's not. Besides he's already remembered for other things including being the third president to be impeached.

You're thinking he's a lot dumber than he is. One of my economics recommenders is friends with one of his chief economics advisors and the President listens a lot to what he has to say.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 15:12
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Trump definitely seems to care more about the economy and big business and protecting them than saving human lives. 

The numbers of the economy are all red flags that we're heading towards a depression, especially if it lasts for longer than a few months. He doesn't want to be remembered as the second coming of Herbert Hoover!

For one thing I doubt he even knows who HH was. Other than that I seriously doubt he cares. You act as though he's a normal person. Trust me. He's not. Besides he's already remembered for other things including being the third president to be impeached.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 14:58
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Trump definitely seems to care more about the economy and big business and protecting them than saving human lives. 

The numbers of the economy are all red flags that we're heading towards a depression, especially if it lasts for longer than a few months. He doesn't want to be remembered as the second coming of Herbert Hoover!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 14:34
Trump definitely seems to care more about the economy and big business and protecting them than saving human lives. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2020 at 14:18
Hi Ivan
I have many friends in Peru and they tell me similar to what you report, things seem to be leveling out. My family in Honduras are reporting similar. Police investigating anybody on the street at night and making them go home or escorting them home, military is also on the prowl, but that is pretty normal for Honduras.

My wife has asthma also but is doing good, she is vigilant about washing hands and wiping down her desk daily. Good thing is she has never been a smoker Smile.

Take care, cuidate!
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