Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

tamijo wrote: It's the complexity of the silence between the cords, that is the true heart of the matter.

I don't think Robert Fripp is overrated. Based upon what I've heard of his playing, with and without King Crimson, he is certainly in my book, a very original, inventive and affecting guitarist. 

Dayvenkirq wrote:   it doesn't matter if all chords are simple, everything must be simple too. Simple chords simple progression.

Now you've lost me. What point are you making here now? Just because all chords in a piece are simple, that does not necessarily mean that all the chord changes, the chord voicings, and the progressions are simple in detail. Think bigger. The execution of the piece may be simple, but the detail of the piece may or may not be complex. Keep in mind that what is simple or complex in terms of execution and detail (and there is an obvious difference between the latter two) can sometimes be in the grey area. "Is this piece simple or complex?" "Compared to what?"[/QUOTE]

If you mix 10 simple songs into one song you won't have one complex song you will still have a simple song cos to have it complex those riffs must interact with each other in multiple ways.

Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Simple chord is a simple chord. Not all chords are simple. I'm aware of that, so I don't know if you are onto another point here. LSDisease wrote: Chord changes? Man, a guitar covers 4 octaves. Many progressions are available. I was talking about making many progressions from just about seven or more chords. Don't know what octaves have to do with any of it.

it doesn't matter if all chords are simple, everything must be simple too. Simple chords simple progression.

Dayvenkirq wrote: I don't know if it's possible to make a complex piece using only simple chords

I know this particular topic doesn't belong on this thread, so I'd like to close it with another thought. Now that I'm reading the tab for "Celestial Voices", you could use about seven or more chords to generate many more subtle chord changes, but at this point I don't even want to go in detail about whether it's (1) the number of just the chords or (2) the number of the chords and the number of the different subtle chord changes that could make a piece more complicated. That's up to you.[/QUOTE]

Simple chord is a simple chord. Not all chords are simple. Chord changes? Man, a guitar covers 4 octaves. Many progressions are available.

Dayvenkirq wrote: Yeah, I don't want to discuss the upper limit on how many simple chords would make a simple piece, or the lower limit on how many simple chords would make a complex piece.

I don't know if it's possible to make a complex piece using only simple chords

Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote:   Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece. it's still not complex, it's just more complicated than a piece with less chords. I think it depends on how many chords, how much information is put into the piece.

If I write a song with 12 different chords it's more complicated than a song with only 8 different chords. Yet it's not too complex if all chords are simple.

HackettFan wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece. I agree. It's the relationship between the chords. For instance, in music theory, a regular major chord could be a functional equivalent of a minor 7th one and a half steps lower because it use the same notes aside from the root note of the minor 7th. Nevertheless, Fripp has been known to use 13th chords and the like. I don't believe he was any slouch in designing chord progressions.

Ah! ... Didn't know that. I never break music down like that.  

Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 01 2014 at 16:17

Dayvenkirq wrote:   Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece.

it's still not complex, it's just more complicated than a piece with less chords.

^ I know, right. Some people on here do nothing but make sarcastic comments and become argumentative easily. Uh. Wait.