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Kashmir75 
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 Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:49 |
It seems that from recent interviews, he's become tired of the metal thing. Maybe he feels limited in PT. Shifting to a heavier approach from In Absentia onwards, gave them a new, younger, fan base, but maybe his heart just is not in the heavier music anymore.
If we see PT again, I suspect it will be in a different guise. A new evolution.
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:24 |
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To say that response from The Incident is why he's focused on his solo career or why he didn't use traditional metal is just silly.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:07 |
Going a bit off topic but Deadwing will likely remain my favourite PT album till I die. To echo some previous comments I thought The Incident was a solid album as was FOABP. Neither would be above Deadwing or In Abesentia in my book though.
I doubt that Steven moved away from PT because of the supposed negative reaction to The Incident. I saw him at Hammersmith Appollo on that tour and it was a sell out so a lot of people still wanted to see them. I think he just wanted to try some different ideas outside of what was becoming a slightly restricted format. GFD allowed to him to be totally creative because there were no boundaries and no 'style' that had to be lived up to. Thats how I see it anyway.
Edited by richardh - November 29 2012 at 14:08
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 13:34 |
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Well, I really like The Incident, but don't think it's their best. I also am not crazy about FOABP, and find it one of their least enjoyable albums (not quite my least favorite, but close).
I hated Insurgentes (and still pretty much feel the same), but love GfD. However, I agree that the material from both albums sounds much better live (even though GfD stuff is still outstanding anyway).
Very much looking forward to this new album. Luminol is my favorite track on Get All You Deserve.
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 06:09 |
Nothing wrong with Incident. by coincidence i am listening to Blackest Eyes now as I opened the thread. Love that album.
But if this new one is anything close to Grace for Drowning its gonna be incredible. Brilliant artist
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Kashmir75
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 02:14 |
It may be why he walked away from PT, at least for now. The response to the Incident.
It's a shame, I really liked it as well. I must have heard a different album to everyone else.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 02:10 |
I love The Incident. It's a 5 star album for me, but as are the previous three, and all three of them are better.
I honestly don't care what you guys think, but the bad response may have been what prompted Steve to drop the metal part, because he wasn't writing it well anymore.
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 01:55 |
 Chris S wrote:
^ agree on that score |
don't agree on either score tbh
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 23:14 |
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ARGH SO EXCITED
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:29 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Argonaught wrote:
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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The Incident, had it happened anywhere between Lightbulb Sun and FOABP, would have fared much better in people's perception. But, it came after FOABP and could not reenact the magic of the latter (which everyone had been kind of hoping for). Wilson must have felt that we was flogging a dead porcupine, and walked away.
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Not for me. If anything it would have pushed me off of PT (and changed my opinion of them overall perhaps), but I would still find the album to be subpar. |
Yep. Mediocre songs are mediocre songs despite their release timing.
Edited by Horizons - November 28 2012 at 21:30
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:27 |
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I still think I'm the only one who thinks The Incident was a great album. GfD, on the other hand, was lacking. |
Nope, I'm right there with you Andy. The Incident I appreciate more all the time, especially the new live version. Grace I fear will move to the "sell/give away" pile. I seem to enjoy it less with each spin.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:21 |
Argonaught wrote:
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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The Incident, had it happened anywhere between Lightbulb Sun and FOABP, would have fared much better in people's perception. But, it came after FOABP and could not reenact the magic of the latter (which everyone had been kind of hoping for). Wilson must have felt that we was flogging a dead porcupine, and walked away.
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Not for me. If anything it would have pushed me off of PT (and changed my opinion of them overall perhaps), but I would still find the album to be subpar.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:20 |
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Hot diggity!
More Wilson is always welcome.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:19 |
Gallifrey wrote:
Don't be expecting another PT album for at least 2 years. And if it does come out, it will be rather different.
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And thank god! TI was a total low in SW music career. IMHO of course.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:06 |
I love his solo stuff. I listen to Insurgentes more than GfD actually. The Incident was a disappoint, but hasn't really changed my opinion on PT.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:03 |
I must be alone in liking both PT and his solo material. The Incident was a great album , imo.
Then, I am a diehard fan, and buy just about anything with his name on it! lol
I agree that both the Incident, and his solo stuff, comes off much better live. I have both the Get All You Deserve DVD and the Octane Twisted one, and saw PT live on the Incident tour. Live, he's a force to be reckoned with.
I think the next PT album, if there ever is one, will be very different. The long break will have given him some new ideas. I hope that it is different, not because I didn't like the In Absentia-Incident era (2002-10), but because I love it when artists experiment and explore new avenues. Time for a fourth PT era, anyone? (On The Sunday of Life-Signify psychedelic space rock era, 1987-96; Stupid Dream/Lightbulb Sun art pop era, 1998-2001; In Absentia-Incident progressive metal/heavy prog era, 2002-10)
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:35 |
Andy Webb wrote:
I still think I'm the only one who thinks The Incident was a great album. GfD, on the other hand, was lacking. |
Agree with both. GFD and Insurgentes were more like rehearsal sessions in the new format. If you haven't heard or seen Get All You Deserve, which is a much-improved live compilation of some select material from GFD and Insurgente, do have a listen and you'll see how far the new-new band has come.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:26 |
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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The Incident, had it happened anywhere between Lightbulb Sun and FOABP, would have fared much better in people's perception. But, it came after FOABP and could not reenact the magic of the latter (which everyone had been kind of hoping for). Wilson must have felt that we was flogging a dead porcupine, and walked away.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:21 |
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I tell ya. The guy has the idea bag filled to the top. No rest for the wicked! Lots of rocket sauce and Brain candy in that one. Lol he's a song writing machine!
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:16 |
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I still think I'm the only one who thinks The Incident was a great album. GfD, on the other hand, was lacking.
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