The Biggest Disgrace In Music History |
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Ambient Hurricanes
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2011 Location: internet Status: Offline Points: 2549 |
Posted: June 30 2012 at 17:10 | |||
I said nothing about the Pixies and Soundgarden. It's my impression, from the music I've heard and discussions I've had with other musicians, that Nirvana had a negative influence in that they inspired many bands after them with similar not-too-special songwriting and limited instrumental skills. I'm not anything approaching a popular music expert, though, so I could be wrong. In my above post I meant to point out that it wasn't like popular music was that much better before Nirvana came along. Sure, hair metal guitarists had technical ability, but there's no use for that if there's a deficiency of emotion and songwriting skills. I haven't been too impressed with Cobain's songwriting from what I've heard, but at least he had a point to his music, unlike many hair bands. The argument could also be made that Nirvana did a good thing in influencing thousands of kids to play guitar, because they realized that they could play for fun without having to be virtuosos.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 17:02 | |||
No the original wasn't a bad song he just made a really lazy dirgy version of it!
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:56 | |||
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:44 | |||
What film was it in? Luckily I missed this song and whatever film it was at the time. How many wives did he need to pay for at the time to have to do this dirge?
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:39 | |||
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:20 | |||
I don't mean PC in general. BUt, this song is awful!
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lucas
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:11 | |||
He auditioned to play bass for The Melvins, but was not kept. He remained however friend with them and contributed some guitar and percussion on their album 'Houdini'.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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HURBRET
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:47 | |||
Oh, come on. The people who made those videos probably intentionally made them that bad to get attention. See, my personal opinion is that the biggest disgrace to music is the fact that Justin Bieber is successful.
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CCVP
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:32 | |||
All I know is that he's an hero that played the guitar in a famous band.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:24 | |||
Oh god. His music is a joke between a few friends and I. Bite it you scum!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:27 | |||
For some reason when I see disgrace and music together in one sentence, this guy comes to mind:
GG Allin |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:23 | |||
But it is a claim and not a fact as you implied when you first mentioned his guitar hero status. He is a rock hero to some, one that happened to play guitar, but few credit him with any guitar skills, especially anyone who can play a guitar. Certainly no one here ever made that claim.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:19 | |||
Variety is the Spice of Life as they say. In my life there is room for Nirvana Madonna Punk and Tangerine Dream.. and Post Punk and.......
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:15 | |||
Johnny B Goode reference there methinks? However, no-one on PA would dare undermine the OP's loathing and disgust for a popular music recording as represented by the proffered example. Life's too short, get over it and move on to the thing that brings us all together on PA to celebrate the things that make life worthwhile.
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:03 | |||
I obviously don't. But that is a claim that he is a guitar hero. |
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:03 | |||
He is no 73 in Rolling Stones all time guitarists. Not that that means anything. However, playing the guitar can be like ringing a bell
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:51 | |||
This simply does not compute - *fans* make all kinds of vainglorious claims about their favourites, and you and I are not immune from that. It does not make it a universal truth or an undeniable fact.
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:45 | |||
Oh, I've heard people claim he was the best guitarist ever. |
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:24 | |||
Is Cobain considered a Guitar hero? (and I don't mean just because he's featured on dumbass a video game) I thought he was considered to be a songwriter of his generation rather than a musician.
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:19 | |||
No, he is considered influential because he showed a more minimal approach could work, again, in guitar and he also put the emphasis on delicious tones rather than just blistering combinations of notes. Music follows this cycle of simple-complex-simple, nothing new there. Sid Vicious was a hero for those who got tired of prog's ponderous nature. Metal excess was the answer to rudimentary punk rock and Cobain pushed the balance back towards simplicity again. It goes on. How many bedroom guitarists have succeeded anyway in acquiring as much influence as Cobain? Does it really matter what he is considered? |
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