Your thoughts on gay rights?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: This argument would be so much easier and non-existent if we just gave up the idea that marriage has to be part of the law.

There are so many wrong things in this phrase . . . IDK where to start. 

The T wrote: I'm not sure why a marriage celebrated according to the religious beliefs of the couple should be any less valid than one sanctified by a civil servant. I would say in many cases the former might even have more validity since it was done according to the couple's deeper beliefs as opposed to being forced by local laws. In this case I like the rule described by Ivan in Peru. If I'm not wrong my country of origin has the same.

Most countries that use the Civil Law system have the religious marriage of any kind at least as equal to the civil marriage. Brasil was quite unique in this subject since up until the late 1950's ONLY the civil marriage was legal. Regardless of the way you choose to marry, you must bring the marriage certificate to the appropriate civil servant for it to be valid and, if not, your descendants may not have any right whatsoever to anything you or your current of previous "significant other" have.

In Brasil, that does not necessarily happens because inheritance is a fundamental human right and, for that, can not be deprived from anybody. In the US, however, due to the crazy Common Law + Civil Law system + the division of law-making between Municipalities, States and Union and the abyssal differences between states, I find it quite possible for somebody to lose their inheritance due to the lack of some certificate. 

The T wrote: Also, as you know I'm pretty sure (knowing how my girl and I are) that I will spend the rest of my life with her. But we're still quite uncertain about asking Daddy State to bless the relationship and issue as a license (?!?). Only for inheritance issues (if I suddenly die in the future I want her to get eveything) but even that can be fixed with other documents.

IDK how the system works in the US nor the State where you live, Teo, but the lack of a marriage certificate can have far-reaching consequences in almost every serious country that I know of, being inheritance the most significant and lasting of those, since it will surpass and last way longer than your physical existence on Earth, but there are many more consequences that may turn your everyday life into a living hell.

Honestly, Textbook, instead trying to shove your atheism into people's faces, and track a somewhat conservative stance held by Ivan here, straight to religion, perhaps try building an argument that isn't built upon constantly trying to disprove the existence of a deity.

Do I agree with Ivan? On this? Nope. 

I 99% agree with you- Not everything written in the bible is set in stone. It's thousands of years old and it's only natural for things to change. But to explain it in such a disgusting way?? I expected better. 

And yeah sorry for landing in this conversation out of nowhere.

And yeah, Gay Marriage all the way and sh*t. Why does anyone even remotely care anymore?!

Wow, so much truth.

Also, you are going to far on this and de-railing the thread discussing the origin of the prohibition of homosexual marriage in western society when, in fact, not a single human society has ever allowed any sort of homosexual marriage, even though many accepted homosexuals and homosexual relationships with more or less tolerance throughout history.