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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 23:58
Originally posted by AEProgman AEProgman wrote:

Thanks Nick and Jose'!  Hopefully I can test drive some of the headphones (and amps) in the upcoming week and then take the plunge.  You guys and the others gave me a good starting point to begin a long overdue journey into better listening.

Thinking back to the only good headphones I ever had was as a teenager in the 70s, I got a pair of the old Koss Pro 4A (or whatever the model # was then) for Christmas.  Back then they cost $40 which was big bucks then!  Surprised to see they brought that model back due to popular demand for $80. I Plugged them into an old Midland 8-track tape deck, I had never heard such wonderful new sounds to songs, I could hardly believe it was the same old songs I had been listening to.  After that, I never had a good pair (must have spent money on girls, cars, and partying LOL).

I guess we are all audiophiles to some degree or we would not be here on PA Smile.
 
No problem.....I used some of those big cans by Koss too as a teenager. I used to fall asleep with them on listening to Rush.....I had Rush mix tapes on reel to reel and would just lay down and listen before you know it I was out.....Something about listening to music thru headphones always makes me sleepy..dunno guess I am weird that way LOL
 
Once you start to hear music in a much higher quality playback, you will want to continue that path but more importantly you will hear your favorite music in a different way......I bet ya!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 22:44
Absolutely my pleasure, my friend.

I get very excited when I hear about other fellow prog heads like yourself willing to strive to get the very best out of their music listening experiences.
You begin to appreciate the creatively gifted sound engineers and hear the differences in what makes up a quality recording in general. Another thing is instrument placement. You feel the air and separation in the overall sound stage, but that is really further down the road for you cause you gotta spend some cash to achieve that from your gear. Anyhow, happy listening.
Let me know how it goes and what differences you hear along the way.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 07:10
Thanks Nick and Jose'!  Hopefully I can test drive some of the headphones (and amps) in the upcoming week and then take the plunge.  You guys and the others gave me a good starting point to begin a long overdue journey into better listening.

Thinking back to the only good headphones I ever had was as a teenager in the 70s, I got a pair of the old Koss Pro 4A (or whatever the model # was then) for Christmas.  Back then they cost $40 which was big bucks then!  Surprised to see they brought that model back due to popular demand for $80. I Plugged them into an old Midland 8-track tape deck, I had never heard such wonderful new sounds to songs, I could hardly believe it was the same old songs I had been listening to.  After that, I never had a good pair (must have spent money on girls, cars, and partying LOL).

I guess we are all audiophiles to some degree or we would not be here on PA Smile.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2015 at 19:26
Originally posted by AEProgman AEProgman wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:


If no amp will support your set up just make sure you try to grab a headphone that is at or under 38 OHMS, otherwise they will need an amp so you can drive them properly.
It me know what you decide on. The world of audio is fascinating.
 


Holy Ohms Law Batman!  Never figured on so much details and calculations to ponder.  I am reconsidering the use of an amp, maybe a DAC if I want to get the most bang for my buck.  But it has to be portable and of course low $ for starters.  

Nick, you or anyone used a FiiO portable amp?  Or others?

I think I found a couple of places locally where I can test drive some of the headphones on my list, hopefully they will have some amps to test to see the differences.

<span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">Hope I am not becoming an audiophile </span>Smile<span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">, will have to figure out how to launder money without the wife's knowledge..</span>LOL


Yeah I know. Electrical resistance is a bitch.

And as for FiiO. Yes! I've used the E17, which is a DAC and AMP hybrid.
A real steal for the money. Sitting at 120 U.S you can't beat that price for the performance of this little sucker, which can drive headphones up to 300ohms!!! Pretty impressive and as my good friend Jośe said, you can band this amp so nicely with any I pod device, especially the Nano.
The FiiO monte Blanc is their flagship for portable amps right now, but the E 17 will be more than enough for the budget price of the headphones you are gonna select.
If you pair the FiiO with the audio Technica ATH M-50's that's a nice starting point for a decent listening experience that will be under 250$.
However, it is frightening how many headphones are out there to choose and how bloody different they sound, but getting a neutral pair of studio monitors like the M-50's is a great starting point...later on the "Upgradiness bug' will set in and you'll need and want a better pair of headphones.
The E17 is a great buy, and I currently use it to drive my Sony MDR Z 7's for a quality on the go music listening experience. Those cans are 70 ohms and the FiiO drives them beautifully.
The DAC quality however is good, but not amazing.

Enjoy man
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:00

I use Turtle Beach headphones. Although they're made specifically for gaming, I've found that they can be used as great music listening devices.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2015 at 08:59
^ We are all audiophiles, we want to listen to our music in the best possible way to give us the best musical experience...Does not matter if you spend $50 or $5K.
 
FiiO amps are pretty nice and very portable, they also make them with bands that wrap around your music device like an iPod, Zune or phone.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2015 at 20:02
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:


If no amp will support your set up just make sure you try to grab a headphone that is at or under 38 OHMS, otherwise they will need an amp so you can drive them properly.
It me know what you decide on. The world of audio is fascinating.
 

Holy Ohms Law Batman!  Never figured on so much details and calculations to ponder.  I am reconsidering the use of an amp, maybe a DAC if I want to get the most bang for my buck.  But it has to be portable and of course low $ for starters.  

Nick, you or anyone used a FiiO portable amp?  Or others?

I think I found a couple of places locally where I can test drive some of the headphones on my list, hopefully they will have some amps to test to see the differences.

Hope I am not becoming an audiophile Smile, will have to figure out how to launder money without the wife's knowledge..LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2015 at 11:40
Originally posted by AEProgman AEProgman wrote:

Thanks guys!  Did realize how many different upper end headphones there were available out there, have not really looked into this until now.  The only brand I recognized were the Sennheisers.

Nick! How goes it?  Yes RPI will be cranking, although have only gotten 1 RPI title in the past month or so.  Been exploring the Neo-prog world of late.  I plan to use the website you mentioned, Head-Fi on the choices I've come down to before I buy (listed below for any input from anyone).  Would like to test some of them, but I doubt I will find any place around these parts that carry these, except maybe the guitar/instrument stores, will have to check those out.

From the info you guys provided and websites, here is the list at this point to figure out which one is the winner:

AKG - the K240 or K240 MkII
Audio Technica - ATH-M40X
Sennheiser - HD280 or HD518
Grado - Prestiege SR80e

The Bower and Wilkens, Bang and Olfsen's looked good, but the $$$ for the ones I liked would blow the budget Big smile.  Mostly prefer the over the ear type/comortable, and will be used in various locations, devices, and components.  No DACs or amps.
you are most welcome my friend.
If no amp will support your set up just make sure you try to grab a headphone that is at or under 38 OHMS, otherwise they will need an amp so you can drive them properly.
It me know what you decide on. The world of audio is fascinating.

Also 1 RPI album in 1 month?? How unlike you.

Talk soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2015 at 18:25
^ I tried the HD518 once at the local store, they sound really good and are very comfortable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2015 at 18:07
Thanks guys!  Did realize how many different upper end headphones there were available out there, have not really looked into this until now.  The only brand I recognized were the Sennheisers.

Nick! How goes it?  Yes RPI will be cranking, although have only gotten 1 RPI title in the past month or so.  Been exploring the Neo-prog world of late.  I plan to use the website you mentioned, Head-Fi on the choices I've come down to before I buy (listed below for any input from anyone).  Would like to test some of them, but I doubt I will find any place around these parts that carry these, except maybe the guitar/instrument stores, will have to check those out.

From the info you guys provided and websites, here is the list at this point to figure out which one is the winner:

AKG - the K240 or K240 MkII
Audio Technica - ATH-M40X
Sennheiser - HD280 or HD518
Grado - Prestiege SR80e

The Bower and Wilkens, Bang and Olfsen's looked good, but the $$$ for the ones I liked would blow the budget Big smile.  Mostly prefer the over the ear type/comortable, and will be used in various locations, devices, and components.  No DACs or amps.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2015 at 09:20
Originally posted by AEProgman AEProgman wrote:

Because I am a cheap SOB and do not usually treat my headphones with kid gloves.  Always have gotten headphones less than 40$ (told you I was a cheap @#$^@), and they break within a year or two.

Anyway, getting tired of the bland sound and the wire or connection not working on the cheap stuff. I am looking for advice from some of you gurus on a good rugged pair of headphones between 100 - 200$ with great overall sound.  Any advice is appreciated, thanks.


Okay!

What's up my friend? Since you know and love the RPI genre so well I'd say you want a headphone that give you a nice neutral sound without the overkill on bass extension.
May I suggest the BOWER AND WILKENS P5's for your budget or look into Bang and Olfsen's H6 on ear headphone model. Don't know what style of headphone you prefer, but personally I think circumural (over ear) headphone that is not Closed back is the best. GRADO's lower end models can give you decent bang for your dollar. Great brands there and very easy to drive. One last one.
The AKG 550's or 551's. these are studio monitors like the one Pedraig suggested.
Great, neutral sounding can. :)

Also. A great website to checkout is HEAD-FI.COM. This will allow you to get testimonials on whatever you are interested in because freaks (like me) blog about this sh*t all the time.

Good luck. Let me know if I can help out in any other way.

Edited by progbethyname - February 15 2015 at 09:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2015 at 05:14
I will join with those recommending Sennheiser - they have models to suit most budgets and make great-sounding and durable headphones. I have the huge, dorky-looking HD600s and HD650s and I love 'em. Strictly for home listening in a fairly quiet environment though as they're open-backed. But tremendously comfy and monitor-quality sound.

Mind you with Sennheiser you will generally get an unbiased sound - they don't emphasise the bass or any other part of the spectrum. As it should be IMO!

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I'm using a pair of Sennheiser PX-100s. They have very good sound quality and are extremely comfortable while also being rather compact, the important thing being that they can be folded together and are easy to transport. I'm also under the impression, though, that they are rather expensive as they were a graduation gift from my parents.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2015 at 19:12
Originally posted by AEProgman AEProgman wrote:

Because I am a cheap SOB and do not usually treat my headphones with kid gloves.  Always have gotten headphones less than 40$ (told you I was a cheap @#$^@), and they break within a year or two.

Anyway, getting tired of the bland sound and the wire or connection not working on the cheap stuff. I am looking for advice from some of you gurus on a good rugged pair of headphones between 100 - 200$ with great overall sound.  Any advice is appreciated, thanks.


I own these.  Will be upgrading in about a years time, but I think they are pretty damn good for the price.
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Because I am a cheap SOB and do not usually treat my headphones with kid gloves.  Always have gotten headphones less than 40$ (told you I was a cheap @#$^@), and they break within a year or two.

Anyway, getting tired of the bland sound and the wire or connection not working on the cheap stuff. I am looking for advice from some of you gurus on a good rugged pair of headphones between 100 - 200$ with great overall sound.  Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2014 at 16:10
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Probably won't be until my birthday in 4 months, because I just spent the GDP of a small island on the fam for Christmas.


I really recommend you pass on the 550' series. Go with the 650's. if your prepared to invest in quality I'd start with this. Also, once you get those headphones in the future you'll have to buy a proper dedicated headphone amplifier to maximize those CANS potential. 650 is much better territory audio wise to start with if you are willing to spend a little extra. Anyway, nice to hear that you are making a solid step for a better, more realistic listening experience.


Noted - I just worry about diminishing returns.  I can certainly lay out the cash for the 650s, but I want to make sure I'm getting appropriate value for that delta cost.

edit:  if you see the other thread "what do you listen to prog on" you can see some back and forth between myself and Catcher10 on a good headphone amp/DAC setup.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2014 at 16:02
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Probably won't be until my birthday in 4 months, because I just spent the GDP of a small island on the fam for Christmas.


I really recommend you pass on the 550' series. Go with the 650's. if your prepared to invest in quality I'd start with this. Also, once you get those headphones in the future you'll have to buy a proper dedicated headphone amplifier to maximize those CANS potential. 650 is much better territory audio wise to start with if you are willing to spend a little extra. Anyway, nice to hear that you are making a solid step for a better, more realistic listening experience.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2014 at 15:25
Probably won't be until my birthday in 4 months, because I just spent the GDP of a small island on the fam for Christmas.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2014 at 15:20
Those seem nice, tell us what do you think of those if you get them. I have a pair of 449's for almost 3 years and they sound very good Smile
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