Losing interest in prog

OT Räihälä wrote: My tuppence to this "drums in classical" discussion: pop/rock/jazz is often called "rhythm music" to separate it from classical. In fact, it is rather the opposite, as the rhythm lives much more in classical music with constant accelerating and decelerating of the pulse, whereas in rock music a drummer is much more needed to keep up an unchanged tempo. Typical rock style drumming would kill most classical music, especially the music of the last century.

Friede, get the album quoted in my sig and your interest will come back.

Edited by oliverstoned - January 18 2012 at 06:35

Hellow Friede, I saw this thread just now, I dont come here too often anymore...(maybe I've lost interest in prog? ), anyway, I quite think it's not a fair thread. You come up once in a while with this attitude of 'I dont like prog anymore'. Well, this is a prog site, and dedicated for peaple who love and interested in prog. If you dont feel like this anymore, you just do not have to show up.

Hi everybody!

The bible says it, the Byrds sang it:
"To everything, turn, turn, turn,
there is a season, turn, turn, turn".

Well,this also goes to show for Progressive Music
and related.
Heyday indeed was 67 to 75.
Problem nowadays is, that imho the music which is called
NuProg is more or less stripped down to a consumer's
phenomenen, whereas in its glory days it was embedded
in countercultural all-day-life, for example the many
country-communes that existed round 70 to 75.
Prog in those days was just one aspect of many
cultural manifestations of doing something else than
Joe Normal.
Today, there's still good music around, but cause of
the socio-economical pressures on the musicians as well as
on the consumer or listener, there's no space or time left
for a reflective, healthy mood, that develops and expands
consciousness.

I have to say, coming late to this thread, that my situation is very similar. I stopped really looking for new prog (even from bands I already knew) almost 2 years ago. I've devoted myself almost entirely to classical and in prog I have basically just continued buying the new albums from already-loved bands, with a few exceptions (Leprous for example). The times when I used to, say, check the list of best albums for a year and buy as many as I could to experiment are long gone. No Umphrey McGee for me. Basically with prog I've grown quite conservative. I have a gigantic collection of classical music CDs which will take me a LONG time to study and enjoy.

Now I have to buy the new Arena...

cstack3 wrote: octopus-4 wrote: cstack3 wrote: I'm very fond of South American Indian pan flute music, these little groups have a very nice & buoyant vibe!  We have them on the streets of Chicago, and I once saw a small group performing the same songs in Exeter, Devon UK!   Sometimes I jam along with these on electric guitar/bass for something different.   Native music contains much of interest to us....polyrhythms, nice tempos, interesting instrumentation etc.  I highly recommend it, Gabriel, Byrne, Eno etc. can't all be wrong! Agreed. There's a lot of interesting things around. In terms of World I'm more oriented to the Far East and Yungchen Lhamo (Tibet) is one of my fav.  Thanks, I need to check into that!   One of my favorite examples was the influence of Indonesian gamelan music on Fripp's "Discipline" era music. Fantastic translation onto electric guitar, who else but Fripp could do that?? We are finally starting to see some interesting musical evolution out of some real backwaters....these kids are a lot of fun to watch on YouTube!    Not prog, but hey, it all starts with pop initially, right? There will be more interesting music to break out of the PRC someday, they certainly have access to the instruments (Gibson, Fender etc. all build over there). However, the government is notoriously anti-rock because of fears of counter-revolution. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/world/asia/in-myanmar-girl-band-embraces-western-culture-on-burmese-terms.html

There is too much snobbery in this thread; mostly from 2 offenders

I can't say I've lost interest.  I've quite a lot to enjoy here at progarchives.com.  Especailly the lesser known bands such as Opus Symbiosis (Finland), Osada Vida (Poland) Siena Root (Sweden), The Future Kings Of England (UK), Time Traveller (Finland), Dialeto (Brazil), The Laze (UK), Tuvalu (Finland).  Without progarchives.com, I would have never discovered these bands.

Edited by Gooner - January 10 2012 at 11:38

Mosis wrote: it always makes me chuckle when someone with the musical maturity of a 17 year old goes on a tirade against pop music and uses some douche-metal circle jerkers like Dream Theater as an example of "real" music.

The irony is that Another Day sits even more, ermm, 'prettily' on a Kenny G collection than any Carpenters hit.  Some people just don't seem to get how tough it is to craft a good pop song that resonates with a large audience. 

Ludjak wrote: Agreed. Also, adding pop/rock vocals to orchestral music would also require careful amplification, since a rock singer cannot outsing an orchestra unless he's miked, whereas a classically trained singer can (not all classically trained singing is necessarily operatic, unless the term is used "loosely").

Very good point...forgot about that.  On the other hand, the typical big vibrato used in classical singing really gets in the way for me and I go with presdoug there; much prefer instrumental classical music.