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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:57
I actually never believed he was guilty judging from what I know of him and the whole case seemed suspect to me!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:55
One cant help but worry about a situation where an adult male takes young boys into his bed....It is easy in these days of lost-innocence to always believe the worst,but I believe he exhibits the major "symptons" of paedophilia..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:48
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Well maybe he isn't guilty

But would he have been convicted if he was guilty????

 

Hard to say Tony.  But I think this one had holes in it and Jackson's lawyers were sharp to expose every one.  The most critical was the mother of the accusors testimony (from the MSNBC artical):

The mother spent several days on the stand, offering testimony that was always dramatic, sometimes bizarre and occasionally incoherent. She described her last stay at Neverland as tense and scary, but never quite explained why she didn't called police or other authorities.

At first, she said, Jackson's aides tenderly offered to help her family from the barrage of media interest. Jurors heard a tape of associate Frank Tyson, whom prosecutors called an unindicted co-conspirator, telling her, “Let us take care of you. Let us protect you.” But she insisted that Jackson's associates, whom she called “killers” on the stand, eventually turned on her: holding her a virtual captive for weeks and plotting to take her family on a one-way trip to Brazil.

Yet testimony detailed that she could leave Neverland to shop and run errands.

The mother faced her own legal scrutiny during the trial, and Mesereau frequently underscored her credibility problems with jurors. She was forced to acknowledge she lied under oath in a 2001 lawsuit against JC Penney, and she took the Fifth over allegations that she committed welfare fraud. A welfare worker testified she had.

Other witnesses, including her former sister-in-law, portrayed the accuser's family as vindictive and money-hungry, the mother as a grifter who pleaded for help — often invoking her family's misfortunes — and always asked for more.

TV host Jay Leno told jurors how he grew suspicious when the accuser called him repeatedly, saying Leno was his hero.

 

On a nother note the only thing of real truth that came from the whole thing was this statement:

Talk show host Larry King appeared in court, but Melville ruled his testimony irrelevant.

That could be said about anything Larry says.

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:41

If there was hard evidence, I think so.

But Jackson faced 20 years imprisonment, for charges that couldn't be proven beyond reasonable doubt. IMO not even close. I don't know whether MJ is guilty or not, the evidence, and the stories around him are inconclusive, and open for all kinds of interpretation.

If he's innocent I think he's badly scared by the procedings, and nothing can compensate for that.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:34

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Well maybe he isn't guilty

But would he have been convicted if he was guilty????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:28
Well maybe he isn't guilty
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:27
Money.
Money...

Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it

So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust

They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money

So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money

You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...

If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it

You'll do anything for money...

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money

Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...
Cuz they're the backstabbers

If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it

You'll do anything for money...

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think so
If you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him

You'll do anything for money

Anything
Anythang
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil

(Repeat 8 times)
Eppur si muove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 17:20

 

Only in America?

Another OJ scenario???

Discuss.

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