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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:19
If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album. In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until On a Island .
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
Anthony wrote:
40footwolf wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?
1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.
so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.
Perfectly told! Bravo! Totally agree!
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
Anthony wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Anthony wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I like it.
Hate Mostly Autumn though.
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this.
...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.....you'll get over it.
I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
Don't care if you don't like them. I don't like their current line-up either. But what does Mostly Autumn have to do with this topic?
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:15
Snow Dog wrote:
Anthony wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I like it.
Hate Mostly Autumn though.
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this.
...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.....you'll get over it.
I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
Don't care if you don't like them. I don't like their current line-up either. But what does Mostly Autumn have to do with this topic?
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:12
Anthony wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I like it.
Hate Mostly Autumn though.
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this.
Hate Mostly Autumn since when Angela left the band. So I don't really hate Mostly Autumn because this si just Bryan Josh's group.
I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:10
Anthony wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I like it.
Hate Mostly Autumn though.
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this.
...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.....you'll get over it.
I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:09
With the exception on Abacab, I don't really know these albums. I don't think Abacrabs is that bad. I only know Love Beach thanks to An Officer And A Gentleman being in a box set I have. I played it once in LP form and the album cover I do know all too well. Thrakattak is really just a bunch of noodling around and they don't make any pretenses that it is an actual album. So if pressed to pick one it would be that one even though it's not fair as it isn't a regular studio release and I do actually have it. The one good thing I will say about it is I got it used. But it wasn't for sale as cheap as it should have been.
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 03 2010 at 06:12
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:06
Snow Dog wrote:
I like it.
Hate Mostly Autumn though.
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this.
Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:00
40footwolf wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?
1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.
so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.
Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
(Introitus - The hand that feeds you)
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 05:49
The Final Cut is the worst garbage ever released as a so-called Pink Floyd album, but I'm surprised that Big Generator is considered to be a worse Yes album than Onion or Open your eyes.
Edited by Anthony - November 03 2010 at 05:50
Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 03:08
Hawkwise got it right as far as PF is concerned.
OK, The Final Cut is an exercise of an overinflated ego, an exaggerated experiment, however, it did have some strong points that maintained my interest. A very hit and miss album. However, The Division Bell sounds like a band that had already broken up. It truly did sound like a contractional obligation where the band members simply couldnt be bothered - which is what happens when bands go well and truly overboard in trying to be 'commercial'. No passion, no ideas, and incredibly flat.
At least Roger tried something..... before he left PF (with great animosity i might add).
PS... I voted for Camels 'the singles collection'.... I simply couldnt sit through it.
I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long.
Seriously, that album has some damn fine songwriting, some of Rogers' best as a matter of fact, it has gorgeous, memorable melodies, and the story is more concise, more relatable and way more moving than the dull, overfed monster that The Wall turned out to be. It's one of my favorite Floyd albums, easily.
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Anthony wrote:
Perfectly told! Bravo! Totally agree!
...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.
