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Catcher10 
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 Posted: October 11 2010 at 14:26 |
Vinyl at home...because I too grew up with vinyl. but anywhere else its mp3 or WMA files.
To me mp3 and other files lack in the low end, whereas to me vinyl is not lowend deficient. Also I think vinyl has a much richer sound than CDs or mp3.
But it is hard finding new issues on vinyl...and expensive.
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spookytooth
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 14:19 |
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I gotta go with FLAC on this one, although I have to say that lately I have been taking a liking to cassette tapes.
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33rpm
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 14:15 |
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Vinyl beyond question!
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Vinyl just sounds better!!
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:41 |
 clarke2001 wrote:
I love vinyl for reasons I don't need to explain to vinyl fans. I won't debate analog vs digital sounds, but vinyl has the charm because of the great art, and a listening ritual and pleasure of record spinning.
However, I voted for other, since this poll is oriented on various digital formats.
My preferred format is mp3 with variable bit rate. I won't say it's better than other formats, I just like it.
Honorable mentions go to:
1. Cassette. I'm the child of the 80's, and I've been discovering the world of music on my double-decker boombox. (ITT-Nokia!)
2. Reel-to-reel tape. When you're recording music, the pleasure at looking at reels spinning and vu-meters jumping in the rhythm of your music is beyond description.
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Ah the Reel to Reel, i almost forgot what pleasure do the VU meters i used to have a TEAC series of those.
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clarke2001
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:37 |
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I love vinyl for reasons I don't need to explain to vinyl fans. I won't debate analog vs digital sounds, but vinyl has the charm because of the great art, and a listening ritual and pleasure of record spinning.
However, I voted for other, since this poll is oriented on various digital formats.
My preferred format is mp3 with variable bit rate. I won't say it's better than other formats, I just like it.
Honorable mentions go to:
1. Cassette. I'm the child of the 80's, and I've been discovering the world of music on my double-decker boombox. (ITT-Nokia!)
2. Reel-to-reel tape. When you're recording music, the pleasure at looking at reels spinning and vu-meters jumping in the rhythm of your music is beyond description.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:33 |
A lossless file will show a good definition picture, the colours slowly cross-fading ones into others:
A lossy sourced file will give something like that:
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:32 |
Hercules wrote:
Nathaniel607 wrote:
Hercules wrote:
and my own recordings off vinyl sound far better than the same CDs do.
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Surely, this proves that it's all in audiophiles' heads? I mean, why ON EARTH would direct rips from vinyls on to CDs that are COMPLETLY unoptimized for the format sound better than actual mastered version?
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Read my post more carefully - the recordings I made were on cassette, not CD. The vinyl sourced, self-recorded cassettes sound far better than the commercial CDs.
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Let me get this straight... you take a sound on a crackly, hiss and surface noise filled format with a limited dynamic range and then place a second generation copy onto a format with an even more limited range and additional hiss. Then, you say it sounds better than crystal-clear digital perfection. Yeah, and I'm Batman.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:31 |
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Hercules, put some spectral analysis of your recorder cassettes and put a spectral of a "comercial CD" of the artist that you want.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:30 |
Hercules wrote:
[QUOTE=Nathaniel607] [QUOTE=Hercules]
Read my post more carefully - the recordings I made were on cassette, not CD. The vinyl sourced, self-recorded cassettes sound far better than the commercial CDs.
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Not true , especially with 16/44 remastering.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:29 |
Hercules wrote:
Nathaniel607 wrote:
Hercules wrote:
and my own recordings off vinyl sound far better than the same CDs do.
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Surely, this proves that it's all in audiophiles' heads? I mean, why ON EARTH would direct rips from vinyls on to CDs that are COMPLETLY unoptimized for the format sound better than actual mastered version?
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Read my post more carefully - the recordings I made were on cassette, not CD. The vinyl sourced, self-recorded cassettes sound far better than the commercial CDs.
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I just don't believe it.
Edited by Snow Dog - October 11 2010 at 13:29
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Hercules
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:26 |
Nathaniel607 wrote:
Hercules wrote:
and my own recordings off vinyl sound far better than the same CDs do.
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Surely, this proves that it's all in audiophiles' heads? I mean, why ON EARTH would direct rips from vinyls on to CDs that are COMPLETLY unoptimized for the format sound better than actual mastered version?
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Read my post more carefully - the recordings I made were on cassette, not CD. The vinyl sourced, self-recorded cassettes sound far better than the commercial CDs.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:18 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
5. Effects of gravity during storage.
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I haven't pulled out a vinyl record in a few years now, but some of the ones that one of my bosses salvaged that went underwater had indeed flattened a little on the bottom. There were some that hadn't been out of the sleeve since I copied them to cassette.
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 11 2010 at 13:20
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:11 |
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For vinyl to sound great:
1. Need a first pressing.
2. Needs to be on non-recycled vinyl.
3. Needs to be played on expensive equipment.
And yet...
1. Dynamic range is still limited.
2. Surface noise is ever-present
3. Quality degrades every single time the needle runs across the surface
4. Dust accumulation.
5. Effects of gravity during storage.
A CD, on the other hand, sounds as perfect today as the day it rolled out of the factory in 1985.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 13:02 |
I prefer CD and FLAC, in fact, FLAC is one of the best way to keep records fine.
Some 16 bit or 24 bit DVD remasters of albums are great.
A 24/96 DVD A can kick T******* to a Vinyl without problem.
I hate Vinyls, in the past and before the cd's i have cassettes and vinyls and i hate the way that have to be handle, they scratch and damage easily, also they have the problem of taking care of the cover art... and finally the decks, what a mess to protect them, i have only bad experiences of hearing music of a vinyl, they look fine as a piece of art rather than to hear music.
Example: For years i have to hear Fireball with a fuzz of scratch and when the cd arrives, that what's the first time that i hear it full blown.
APE and SHN are good as well.
MP3 only of 128 to 320.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:52 |
Frequent anaylisis of a MP source song. (note the drop outs of the song at the end but some of the higher sounds are inaudible to human ears).
Frequence analysis of a .Wav of the same song.
Edited by Alberto Muñoz - October 11 2010 at 12:54
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:46 |
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And what about MCs? I own about 130 pieces somewhere down in my case...
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Nathaniel607
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:45 |
Hercules wrote:
and my own recordings off vinyl sound far better than the same CDs do.
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Surely, this proves that it's all in audiophiles' heads? I mean, why ON EARTH would direct rips from vinyls on to CDs that are COMPLETLY unoptimized for the format sound better than actual mastered version? I'm thought this for a while and what I'm hearing on this thread just further cements that belief. Anyways, CDs/320kb. Both sound perfect to my ears. FLACS are nice, but I can't afford multiple terabytes of hard drive space for my music collection  .
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Klogg
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:45 |
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Cassete!
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:43 |
Other. Phonograph cylinder. 
Edited by Gandalff - October 11 2010 at 13:32
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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MonsterMagnet
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:33 |
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Vinyl (I have around 130 vinyls and 30 CD...)
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