A health care question...

Epignosis wrote: Easy Money wrote:   If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world. Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/

Easy Money wrote:   Wrong again Rob, our military is not run by Lockheed, it is run by the government of the USA.

John, I swear, you should run for president with that slogan ("WRONG AGAIN ROB!"), but look carefully here.The government runs the military yes, but were it not for private corporations, they would not have the best fighter jets, for example, to make them great.  Men with swords and horses won't cut it anymore.[/QUOTE]


Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military.

Edited by Easy Money - April 05 2010 at 20:23

Easy Money wrote:   If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/[/QUOTE]

Easy Money wrote:   Wrong again Rob, our military is not run by Lockheed, it is run by the government of the USA.

John, I swear, you should run for president with that slogan ("WRONG AGAIN ROB!"), but look carefully here.

The government runs the military yes, but were it not for private corporations, they would not have the best fighter jets, for example, to make them great.  Men with swords and horses won't cut it anymore.

Easy Money wrote: I don't know if the Obama plan is the best, but no one else offered anything different than the status quo. Obama is the only one who stepped up to the plate and made something different happen. To throw up unproven platitudes like 'if it is run by the government it must be bad' is just nonsense. If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

Because of government-run programs, John!

Oh wait, no.

Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/

I don't know if the Obama plan is the best, but no one else offered anything different than the status quo. Obama is the only one who stepped up to the plate and made something different happen.

To throw up unproven platitudes like 'if it is run by the government it must be bad' is just nonsense. If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

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Edited by Slartibartfast - April 05 2010 at 19:43

"profit" is an interesting idea--  Richard Nixon always said he never 'profited' from his work in government, which as a lawyer he meant he'd never earned more than what he'd worked for.. so to him, profit meant something significantly beyond an established payment for services

 

Easy Money wrote: Epignosis wrote: "Whatever is not for profit is either charity or robbery."-Epignosis Wrong again Rob some of the schools I have worked for are 'non-profit', they aren't charities nor are they robbers, they provide a service for a price and then more or less break even. Schools are not the only place where this strange phenomena takes place.

So such institutions always have a zero budget?  Cool.  Could teach the US government something.

Wait, when was I wrong before?

Epignosis wrote: "Whatever is not for profit is either charity or robbery."-Epignosis

Wrong again Rob some of the schools I have worked for are 'non-profit', they aren't charities nor are they robbers, they provide a service for a price and then more or less break even. Schools are not the only place where this strange phenomena takes place.

Edited by Easy Money - April 05 2010 at 18:55

"Whatever is not for profit is either charity or robbery."

-Epignosis

The Doctor wrote: ^ Uh...the for-profit health-care system Rob.  Tried it.  It sucks.  Leaves lots without the care they need, etc., etc., etc.

No, we have not tried the "for-profit" health care system.  We've been doing something completely different than that.