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The Truth
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 13:46 |
No but I listen to them happily all the same...
(What frickin' difference does it make? )
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idiotPrayer
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 13:33 |
They were prog but then went un-prog (not saying they became bad though)
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Tony R
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 12:10 |
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, Rush certainly influenced a lot of modern Prog. Again, with all due respect you were 7 years old when Rush released AFTK, so what do you know about the scene at that time?
The fact that Rush appealed to Heavy Rock fans seems to confuse people. Rush played Prog with a hard edge and a focus on the "rock" aspect. For many rock fans they were the "acceptable" face of Prog. The fact that they chose a similar path to Genesis and moved away from traditional Prog should not be held against them.
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Logan
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 11:15 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
darkshade wrote:
Are any prog bands really prog?
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Strange but true, believe it or not. 
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The way I see it is that bands are not Prog per se, music is. Rush certainly made music/albums that I consider to be examples of Prog and the band is commonly considered to be part of the progressive rock movement. And, of course, the band's music can be categorised in various ways (hard rock being an obvious one).
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 10:44 |
I would consider Rush a prog band. The use of electronically created sounds, the time changes, the stories and concepts contained in their lyrics, and the complexity of their music all add up to serious consideration for the prog label.
Inspector 58
Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - March 20 2010 at 10:45
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 06:25 |
darkshade wrote:
Are any prog bands really prog?
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Indeed. I have to empathize with DT fans now...of all things, I never thought Rush being prog would be up for debate.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 06:23 |
darkshade wrote:
Are any prog bands really prog?
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Strange but true, believe it or not.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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darkshade
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 03:27 |
Are any prog bands really prog?
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The Wrinkler
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:27 |
A Person wrote:
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that was an epic answer
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peart_lee_lifeson
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:11 |
I can't believe this question is even being asked. Just go and listen to 2112, or Hemispheres, or A Farewell To Kings, or etc... If Rush is not a Prog band, then what is a prog band. Come on, seriously. But, I suppose it's understandable if you aren't that familiar with Rush.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:02 |
Yes.
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jammun
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 00:46 |
Can someone give a definitive response: does Geddy Lee sh*t in the woods?
(cymbal shot, audience cringes...)
But really, I was listening to some Rush the other night. I've had my doubts. But in my mind I've absolved them of all their sins. They are as proggy as anyone.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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micky
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 19:42 |
Tony R wrote:
When did Deep Purple ever record anything like Hemispheres, 2112, Xanadu, Fountain Of Lamneth, Cygnus x-1, La Villa Strangiato, The Trees, Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, The Camera Eye, Bytor & The Snow Dog? Compare and contrast Red Barchetta with Highway Star or Spirit Of Radio with Smoke On The Water...
Some people continue to rewrite history and confuse "Prog Rock" with progressive music. Rush were Prog Rock, they were just harder edged than most.
Even worse some people who weren't even 10 when Rush released A Farewell To Kings are lecturing us on what "certain people in the 70s were calling Prog and what they were calling Heavy Rock". How does that work?

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when did Rush ever create a branch or prog...and define it...and inspired clones who are pillars of that sub-genre or even make do what took ELP years to attempt. To fuse classical and rock music on a grand (album length) scale. it isn't rewriting history... it is being smart enough to see it for what it is... and not be confused by popular labels and what OTHERS see a band as. Genesis prog? is that rewriting history... hah. 
Edited by micky - March 19 2010 at 19:44
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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J-Man
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 19:36 |
 I HAD to post that in this thread....
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Tony R
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 18:47 |
When did Deep Purple ever record anything like Hemispheres, 2112, Xanadu, Fountain Of Lamneth, Cygnus x-1, La Villa Strangiato, The Trees, Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, The Camera Eye, Bytor & The Snow Dog? Compare and contrast Red Barchetta with Highway Star or Spirit Of Radio with Smoke On The Water... Some people continue to rewrite history and confuse "Prog Rock" with progressive music. Rush were Prog Rock, they were just harder edged than most. Even worse some people who weren't even 10 when Rush released A Farewell To Kings are lecturing us on what "certain people in the 70s were calling Prog and what they were calling Heavy Rock". How does that work?
Edited by Tony R - March 19 2010 at 18:49
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Raff
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:53 |
Indeed  !
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:52 |
Raff wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
nice way to change the thread |
Yes, especially a thread started by someone with 2 posts, who mysteriously disappeared afterwards ...
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Raff
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:50 |
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
nice way to change the thread |
Yes, especially a thread started by someone with 2 posts, who mysteriously disappeared afterwards   ...
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rdtprog
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:46 |
Rush is a prog-hard-art-rock band and more...
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Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
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starchild
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:38 |
For a long time i thought Rush is considered to be in the same platform as bands like Yes, King Crimson or Genesis. So i was just checking DDD prog forum, where Rush isnt considered to be among the greats when it comes to Progressive Rock.
Just wondering, is it the same with this place too?? if so, whats the reason? :)
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