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npoczynek
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 13:12 |
One thing that bothers me - while we're on the subject of other peoples' reaction to prog music.
What is it with people that complain prog all sounds the same? I've been going through a big Marillion phase lately. I play it all the time and I know for a fact one of the guys I live with (the DT and PT fan) hears it all the time. But sometime's he'll walk into my room when I've got something completely different on and he always says something like "who's this? Marillion?" Then I told him about Transatlantic a couple of times and showed him some of their stuff (he's a Portnoy fan and is somewhat familiar with Nearl Morse). The next day I was playing Riverside and he asked me if it was Transatlantic.
Last time I went home I brought a Marillion DVD along with me and my mom started complaining that it all sounded "homogeneous, or a little monotonous".
Most examples I have off the top of my head involve Marillion - maybe that says something about them instead of prog in general - but I still don't get it.
It seems like if someone hears a couple layers of keyboards, vocals that catch them off-guard, or songs that go through a lot of changes, they just shut off their ears and regard it as noise. It's pretty frustrating.
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npoczynek
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 12:50 |
I've got one friend that's a big fan of Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Rush, Porcupine Tree, and Dream Theater. But he's also into a lot more mainstream stuff. It really confuses me because although he loves the stuff I listed, he never seems very interested in other prog I introduce him to.
Then I've got another that's a fan of Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater. Generally, though, he sticks to a couple of his favorite songs by each of them.
One of my apartment mates (is that the proper term?) is obsessed with Muse and Radiohead and I've been trying to ease him into a couple of bands. He asked me a while ago to copy a couple of albums over to his computer since he left his external hard drive back home. He started to look through my music library and I ended up giving him some Cynic, Oceansize, The Pineapple Thief, Porcupine Tree, and a couple others.
Then, most recently, I left The Incident in a friend's car. This guy listens to nothing but Sum 41 and Yellowcard as far as I know, so it surprised me when he brought up PT a couple days later and apparently he loves "that really long song, the one that's like 15 minutes".
That's about it, though. I've been hoping for so long to meet someone with my level of interest in prog music. There's gotta be someone out there...
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The Block
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Joined: September 01 2009
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Posted: October 22 2009 at 18:18 |
That's not so good.
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BFD31095
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 20:08 |
The Block wrote:
Thats a good friend. |
Yeah. The problem is that SFAM is, according to him, the only album he has ever heard in its entirety, although he says he loves it.
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The Block
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 19:57 |
Thats a good friend.
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BFD31095
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 19:54 |
My parents like classic rock and a few Yes and ELP songs, but none of my friends like good (or even decent) music. ... Except for a friend that gave me Scenes From A Memory (DT) on my birthday, they all like crap-rap or, worse, brazilian funk.
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The Block
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 19:34 |
hitting_singularity2 wrote:
my best friend is the one who first got me into prog about a year ago with the likes of Tull, Yes, Genesis, and all the old stuff. Then I came here and have been showing him new bands ever since. |
Friends are what make the world spin . Though my friend is still telling me about bands that are good.
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hitting_singularity2
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 10:01 |
my best friend is the one who first got me into prog about a year ago with the likes of Tull, Yes, Genesis, and all the old stuff. Then I came here and have been showing him new bands ever since.
Also my girlfriend has a very wide taste in music, and enjoys most of the prog i listen to. She has all of my music now, so I was extatic when I hadn't seen her for a few days, and she came to me and said one of her new favorite songs was Xanadu! So best friend and girlfriend into prog... i'd say life is pretty good :P
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The Block
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 19:09 |
Hmmm... I just stick something on, and if they don't like it, though they usually do, they have to deal with it.
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Gezzaia
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:27 |
I can't help it and start advertising this or that band (cruising through my playlist on the PC) when people come visiting. And I try to find the right vein, judging from their reactions. I often spend entire evenings doing just this... :)
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Progosopher
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Joined: May 12 2009
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:23 |
Textbook wrote:
Does anyone here dance to prog? Not trying to be funny- I think prog is, with the odd rare exception, undanceable, stressing its anti-social side. |
When a good groove gets goin', heck yeah. A lot of Discipline-era Crimson works, and there's that one section of Echoes, to name a couple (not that there's a whole lot). Maybe bobbing up and down to the beat, would be a more appropriate description for what I do, but hey, bodily movement is bodily movement.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Progosopher
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:55 |
[/QUOTE] You have a friend that listened to Jade Warrior with you? I suppose my shock is due to my residence in Green Acres, South Jersey. Does up on cripple creek ring a bell? Back in 2002 I was conversing with Tirill from White Willow. She had a entire different perspective on progressive music than most people I've met in America. There are many great informative prog people here in the U.S., no doubt. But in Europe it feels like more people live for prog. At least of all that is the impression I got from conversing with her. I believe that finding the correct environment has got to be the answer to all our problems(or those who have encountered the same as me), but here in Green Acres there is one path only for most regarding musical form. I realize all too well that most progressive rock originated in Europe, but to live there in a environment of prog fans that is consistently more than less would bring my spirits to the highest level. Is this a fact about Europe or is this a hypothesis that American proggers have?[/QUOTE]
Always good to hear from a Jade Warrior fan. My friend had never even heard of the band before I turned him on to Last Autum's Dream. I'm out in California, and have only been east of the Mississippi a few times, and never close to Jersey, so none of your references have any meaning for me - they're just not within my sphere of experience. We are certainly not talking about the same person. My friend is a good buddy of mine who is not necessarily a fan of prog, but he likes a lot of hard rock from the 60s and 70s. I did play Dark Matter by IQ for him and he thought it was pretty good. Hendrix is his man, and he's a big fan of Deep Purple, King Crimson, and Uriah Heep, as well as Beethoven. Most of my friends like prog to some extent, or at least some bands listed as prog, which is quite common for our age group (50ish). Except for Kansas, American prog is obscure out here; I only have one other friend who is a true prog fan - in fact, he's responsible for getting me back into the genre, but he lives in Seattle. I suppose that's why people like us get onto sites like this - to interact with others of similar bent and tastes in music. It seems to me that Europe is more open to more sophisticated music than the U.S, or maybe it's just a matter of a more concentrated and urban population.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Manuel
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 21:55 |
Listening to music is, for me at least, a very personal experience, and I prefer to listen to it when I'm alone. I like to share prog with some friends who also like to listen to it, with full attention to details, so we gather to discuss and share experiences and opinions, but when listening is the matter, I'm alone most of the time.
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The Block
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 19:30 |
Nice. Got people at school to like prog.
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progvortex
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 16:23 |
I'm 17 years old and for one of my class presentations I had a segment with some King Crimson going on in the background. A lot of people were really into it and ended up checking it out for themselves.
Edited by progvortex - October 19 2009 at 16:24
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Life is like a beanstalk... isn't it?
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The Block
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 17:24 |
The Flower Kings get a warm reception too.
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Bucsdude
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Joined: October 15 2009
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Posted: October 16 2009 at 18:33 |
Agreed
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Matthew T
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 01 2007
Location: Australia
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Posted: October 16 2009 at 14:33 |
Pink Floyd is always a winner DSOM and WYWH and one band that always gets played by us old b*****ds is Credence Clearwater Revival especially after a few beers.
PT is liked by most but if they haven.t heard them before I put on Lightbulb Sun or Deadwing
Steely Dan is loved by all
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NecronCommander
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Posted: October 16 2009 at 06:51 |
My parents do like bands like Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, and Journey, though they don't even realize that they listen to prog
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Whichonespink93
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Posted: October 16 2009 at 00:59 |
When it comes to family, my parents like quite a bit of prog (eg. my mum LOVES King Crimson and Jethro Tull... but doesn't like ELP very much. xPP), while my brother can't stand it and finds it very dull. When it comes to, er, well, friends, I actually have a few mates (who don't come over much mind you, mostly because they live ages away from my house -_-) who love classic rock, including a bit of prog such as Pink Floyd. One of my closet friends, however, likes metal and techno (and also Radiohead, actually), but is quite happy to listen to my stuff. In fact, she was rapt when I played some Mike Oldfield when she was over once because her boyfriend was a fan as well!
Edited by Whichonespink93 - October 16 2009 at 01:00
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