Which is the worst Dream Theater album ?

darkshade wrote: The Quiet One wrote: ^something like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, you mean? what?

Ooops....

"I'm telling you, they could make a highly superior symphonic prog album"

^something like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, you mean?

I voted Scenes from a Memory. At times I've wanted to record an overdub of my voice on the album commenting on every single stupid thing I've found on it, sarcastically pointing out everything from the cheesy lyrics to pointless meter changes just for fun, though obviously few people would appreciate it and/or get the jokes.

btw what i love about the 12 Step Suite is Octavarium is referenced musically in it at least twice, which makes the whole full circle concept even more intriguing


Edited by darkshade - October 04 2009 at 18:01

J-Man wrote: Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO. -Jeff

Falling Into Infinity > Octavarium and Scenes attached

TAKE THAT YOU FOOL!

Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO.

-Jeff

The Quiet One wrote: darkshade wrote: ToT is fine. In fact at least 4 songs on there are some of DT's best. But i understand where people are coming from if they arent big on metal. But Octavarium as one of their worst? there's only one track that's throwaway and it's "I Walk Beside You". Some dont like "The Answer Lies Within" but i think it's a beautiful song. It contrasts the opening heavy hitter "The Root of All Evil" very well. The album has great atmosphere and some ambience, something you only find on SDOIT disc 1. Not to mention it contains DT's best epic in the title track. If "Forsaken" and "Phrophets of War" were taken out of SC, it'd be one of their best, and would still be over an hour long! I can stand Forsaken sometimes though... New album is perfect. Best 2000s album for them IMO which is good cause this decade is kind of coming to a close..... You know my thoughts about Octavarium very well if I'm not mistaken, and that is that Octavarium is plain un-original.

for the most part i agree. I remember around the time it was released, i think Portnoy had made a comment in an interview about how they 'wear our influences on our sleeves" and it's true. The album clearly shows U2, Muse, and Linkin Park influences, and with the title track it's a "pick a classic prog band" influences. But there is some creativity going on, what with TROAE; expanding on the 12 Step Suite, Panic Attack being one of their best songs, same with Sacraficed Sons (both songs i have a hard time hearing the influences) and the great arrangment of Octavarium. Sure you can hear Floyd, Genesis, Yes, Crimson, ELP, etc... but the way it's put together and the lyrics (which reference prog bands too, so it seems very intentional) make up for it.

That's kind of why i love Score so much. everything leads up to the title track (i used to think if DT broke up after Octavarium, at least they went out on a good note with that song.

darkshade wrote: ToT is fine. In fact at least 4 songs on there are some of DT's best. But i understand where people are coming from if they arent big on metal. But Octavarium as one of their worst? there's only one track that's throwaway and it's "I Walk Beside You". Some dont like "The Answer Lies Within" but i think it's a beautiful song. It contrasts the opening heavy hitter "The Root of All Evil" very well. The album has great atmosphere and some ambience, something you only find on SDOIT disc 1. Not to mention it contains DT's best epic in the title track. If "Forsaken" and "Phrophets of War" were taken out of SC, it'd be one of their best, and would still be over an hour long! I can stand Forsaken sometimes though... New album is perfect. Best 2000s album for them IMO which is good cause this decade is kind of coming to a close.....

You know my thoughts about Octavarium very well if I'm not mistaken, and that is that Octavarium is plain un-original.

Snow Dog wrote: progkidjoel wrote: Epignosis wrote: progkidjoel wrote: Systematic Chaos here... Although Octavarium was close behind. EDIT: Good that there's no votes for Awake or I&W, my two favourites Were it not for Train of Thought, that's precisely where my vote would have went. Train Of Thought is the one DT album I've yet to own, but I'm really losing touch with the band (unless its those two albums) so I don't think I'll bother getting ToT. A friend said its their most metal based, but I don't generally like metal anyway. It's up to you of course, but I think it's a brilliant album

Well now I'm confused
If I find it at a low price, I'll get it. However, I will DEFINITELY borrow it from a friend and listen to it. Its rated higher than Falling Into Infinity, so I don't think it can be that bad.

Epignosis wrote: progkidjoel wrote: Systematic Chaos here... Although Octavarium was close behind. EDIT: Good that there's no votes for Awake or I&W, my two favourites Were it not for Train of Thought, that's precisely where my vote would have went.

Train Of Thought is the one DT album I've yet to own, but I'm really losing touch with the band (unless its those two albums) so I don't think I'll bother getting ToT. A friend said its their most metal based, but I don't generally like metal anyway.

Edited by progkidjoel - October 04 2009 at 16:18

progkidjoel wrote: Systematic Chaos here... Although Octavarium was close behind. EDIT: Good that there's no votes for Awake or I&W, my two favourites

Were it not for Train of Thought, that's precisely where my vote would have went.