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b_olariu 
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 Posted: March 22 2009 at 04:57 |
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Si On Avait Besoin D'une Cinquieme Saison (Harmonium)
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fuxi
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 04:50 |
 Man Erg wrote:
Focus - Hamburger Concerto.
I just cannot get into that album.After Focus 3 it just seems bland. |
Couldn't agree more!
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el böthy
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 02:40 |
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I´d say Echolyns, cause although they are a great band I don´t really can listen to them too much before getting a bit tired of them.
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 02:02 |
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Bla Vardag was in Neo-Prog long enough for me not to consider it a Symphonic album now, therefore I vote for that.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:21 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Why, what about Camel?  Largely agree, I had also mentioned Leftoverture and Depois.., would also agree with Hamburger Concerto and the Harmonium album, though none of these albums are bad, just not among the top 20 for me. But Nursery Cryme? Actually the thing I like about Cryme is that it is indeed so difficult and takes some persevering with to enjoy it, more so than maybe even Trespass. Musical Box is IMHO one of their masterpieces, so is Fountain of Salmacis. And it's not because I am a Genesis fan that I say this , now if you had said Trick of the tail, I would have agreed all the way. Almost no filler and most of the songs are good, but after a few listens, there's practically nothing new to gain out of listening to that album, save for Ripples. Surely easy listening albums should go right out of the top 20! 
Actually, when I square up Cryme with SEBTP, I feel SEBTP is a tad overrated.  Yes, it's my favourite Genesis album but the gulf between that and Cryme is not as huge as the ratings suggest, either Cryme needs a better rating - are you listening, micky! - or maybe SEBTP needs to be dragged down! 
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Failcore
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:19 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Give me a damn break. What the hell is your problem.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:00 |
And your vote was for which most upstanding and worthy album??
If you happen to be the lone voice that mentions the Atlas album, I will freely admit that I am not familiar with it. As for all of the others, I assure you that my opinion is correct. 
Edited by ghost_of_morphy - March 21 2009 at 21:07
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 20:39 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Clueless? Really? Like "I don't have a clue how someone could come in here touting his opinion as though it were fact?"
Yeah...I must be clueless.
Edited by Epignosis - March 21 2009 at 20:41
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 20:15 |
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 19:15 |
I think the only things worthy off this thread are Peter's posts. 
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Zitro
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 19:15 |
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I went with the "f*** camel" group. I don't really like Mirage.
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:53 |
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Renaissance for me....but not a bad album by any means.
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 Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:43 |
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ten years after
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:18 |
Yorkie X wrote:
disapointed in one of prog rocks biggest hopes to crack the commercial code being shot down like are in this poll ! Had they been called London I bet it would be a differant story. |
A British equivalent to Kansas would hardly be called London. Derby would be more like it.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:15 |
Yorkie X wrote:
Few bands manage to reach the level of success like Kansas Leftoverture did and it did so not just for its prog elements (as witnessed on guitar hero 2 carry on wayward son) The album flat out rocks in many places it has all the ingredients one who knows what they are talking about looks for in a album serenity and fusion its a melting pot of ideas .. disapointed in one of prog rocks biggest hopes to crack the commercial code being shot down like are in this poll ! Had they been called London I bet it would be a differant story.
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Yorkie X
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 17:45 |
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Few bands manage to reach the level of success like Kansas Leftoverture did and it did so not just for its prog elements (as witnessed on guitar hero 2 carry on wayward son) The album flat out rocks in many places it has all the ingredients one who knows what they are talking about looks for in a album serenity and fusion its a melting pot of ideas .. disapointed in one of prog rocks biggest hopes to crack the commercial code being shot down like are in this poll ! Had they been called London I bet it would be a differant story.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 16:20 |
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It's probably the Atlas thing... but I haven't heard it, so Hamburger Concerto gets the vote... it has to be the biggest fluke high rating on the site... there's nothing great about it, it's just decent.
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Logan
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 16:07 |
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I really like Hamburger Concerto, especially the eponymous piece, but I feel that it's rhythmically let-down. Allen is not the interesting drummer that van der Linden is (the drumming actually irritates me at times in HC -- repetitive, heavy-handed, and dull). Also, one of the best pieces, for me, from that album is Focus' adaptation of "The St. Anthoni Chorale" so it loses originality points (I know that adaptations were common in Prog). Still, I find it wonderful, it moves from the ridiculous to the sublime, and has one of the great finales in Prog.
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someone_else
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 15:50 |
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Of the 16 albums I have heard entirely: Hamburger Concerto. Still a good album, though a bit overrated here. Replace it on this list by Moving Waves and the choice becomes more difficult.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 15:44 |
A general comment here. Let's keep the posts constructive. The albums listed in the poll are at the top of our chart because the majority here think they should be there. Poeple are quite welcome to dislike the albums of course, but they must accept it is they who are in the minority, here at least.
If this thread simply becomes another exercise in bashing, it will be closed. Oh, and keep the language civil please.
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