Amp/Guitar modeling and related discussion thread

Greets all,

Just recently just back from a beautiful sweet tour through Hawaii with Keys of Creation...

I still truly love my GT-10,and was blessed+lucky I brought along my very versatile,but wicked and warm soundin' GT-10;specially when I got to do some tracking sessions along the way.It's all in one box...No tone suckin' here...
(I was specially very happy I brought along my likkle T-Rex "Replica" pedal via midi;dangerous whilst dubing out for the crowd.)

Blessings,Tschüßßßßly from sunny Los Angeles !

For those wondering how much I paid, these cost 1299 AUD in Australia, but I scored mine for 550 AUD plus another 40 bucks for shipping, that's 590 AUD if you can't do math:P.
Given this, I'm extremely happy with the purchase, despite the lack of dynamics, because hey, I got a stupidly good deal.
It looks like the previous owner used it for about 3 weeks, and just put it back in the back, so I got it in excellent condition.

The following post is dedicated to my man Mr Prog Freak.
Something special arrived in the mail about 2 hours ago:



Well, I took it out of the box, put it on the floor and took a photo of it as you can see.
I plugged it in.........and well, realized that I had no idea what to do what so ever
Okay, so well, in a few minutes I had it set up and plugged in, but this baby is gonna take me weeks, perhaps even months to unlock the full potential and to get a tone I want.
Unfortunately, this is no tube amp, and that is not a good thing.
Yes, upon comparing the various Fender clean amp models of my V-Amp 2 to the ones on the POD X3 Live revealed more complexity and depth of tone and *sounded* closer to a real deal tube amp, that is to say the actual tone itself is more tube-like with more tube-like harmonics and the other various good things about tube tone, but.......the dynamics.
Every review, the countless thousands of reviews I've read saying it lacked dynamics, it's all true. I get to finally try it in the flesh and to be honest for something that took this long to come out after the POD XT and even my V-Amp2, I'm a bit underwhelmed with the lack of dynamics.
That is not to say there isn't dynamics there, there obviously is and yes there is more than my V-Amp 2, but for something in the modeling world released in 2007, it could be a lot better than what it is.
That said, I plan to buy a tube power amp down the track as well as a real cabinet rather than using the cabinet emulations, that should improve the tone a bit and add back a bit of the dynamics if other people I have to using that kind of set up are anything to go by.

^^ honestly, this sounds much like "gear protection syndrome" to me. 

This working Los Angeles guitarist has been using for some time the latest from Roland the Boss GT-10
 http://www.roland.com/products/com/GT-10/images/top_L.jpg
http://www.roland.com/products/en/GT-10/index.html

After using for tours,and tracking sessions the GT-8 for a year 1/2;
I LOVE the my new updated GT-10 pedalboard (No more tone sucking!)

Any Line 6 pedalboard when tracking/recording either from a decent tube amp or direct, comes out sounding much like a fly.


Tschüßlly


Edited by DaleHauskins - February 16 2009 at 15:16

^Woa, wait?
What?
No way!



Seriously, I thought Behringer was not going to do anything after the V-Amp 2, because after all, it's an 8 year old product and it made me think, the company was not continuing developing amp modeling.

Good lord, I might buy this when it comes out.
Seriously, about time they did this, this will get them some good market share, because the V-Amp 2 was a better product than the POD 2.0 IMO.
And if the USB connectivity works good, you know what? I'm selling my V-Amp 2 and buying the V-Amp 3.

Hell yes, this is awesome news

Behringer back in the amp modeling game= thumbs up worthy.




Edited by HughesJB4 - February 16 2009 at 00:48

^ I think that most of the gear that has been mentioned in this thread is good enough for a professional gigging musician. It's not only that most people in the audience could never hear those fine nuances, I also think that the difference between a really good performance and a crappy one lies mostly in the guitarist, not in the gear. Provided that it's set up properly, of course (mixing gain/clipping, effects etc).

 

^ I don't think that tubes are necessary to get a really good sound - I own a Tonelab LE and as much as I like it, I prefer the X3 sounds. Besides, what you can't easily do with a Tonelab (or any other hardware) is to record the guitar dry and then generate the tone later during playback in the DAW. Of course if you only focus on live performance, that doesn't really matter ... but most musicians will at one point want to record their music, and then it's really cool it you can record your guitar with the same tone that you're using live, without any problems at all - and you can even tweak it after the fact (the recording), which opens up a new dimension during the mixdown/mastering stage.


Edited by Mr ProgFreak - February 13 2009 at 10:28

^ indeed, like this one: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g71ut/. But there's an important difference compared to the VOX Tonelab. The Zoom modelers use the tube as a preamp, while the Tonelab uses it to simulate a real tube amp. In tube amps the tubes interact with the cabinet, and the simulation of this interaction is the unique feature of the Tonelab. I must say that it sounds really nice! Ultimately though, I think that in the meantime the purely digital modelers have advanced significantly (the Tonelab was introduced in 2003).

^ I'd like to add the VOX Tonelab SE/LE to your list:

http://www.voxamps.com/us/pedals/tonelable/

I own the previous version (SE) and I always liked it ... its unique feature is the built in tube which is used to simulate a real tube amp, while all the built in preamps are digitally modelled.