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The T 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
 Posted: September 09 2010 at 19:44 |
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Ok JLocke, for like the 20th time, we're ok...
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 19:16 |
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I was taught in public schools all my life before college. I loved to read a lot from the school library. Also browsed through encyclopedias often and read into whatever caught my interest.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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thellama73
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:39 |
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My parents are well off now, but they were quite poor when I was young. One common misconception about homeschooling is that the parents have to function as teachers. At least in the variety that I was raised under, I was basically just encouraged to pursue my own interests. If I wanted to learn something, my parents would buy me a book. If I didn't want to learn something, I was not forced to. If I had trouble understanding something they would help to the best of their ability, but they were far from formal instructors.
That being said, I have never held the view that everyone should be homeschooled. Many parents do not have the time nor the temperament for it, but I think it's a really great option for those that want to try. |
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:32 |
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Staying off topic:
A question for you home schooled folks. How wealthy are your parents? Because it's nice if your parents can do it and are competent to do so. And do you believe this is even practical for the rest of us? |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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JLocke
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Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:28 |
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Understandable.
Easy, tiger. I didn't even get mad. I just thought I would point out how you sometimes come across to me. If you don't give a sh*t, then by all means, continue to spout off generalizations and let the chips fall where they may. But if I find something you say to be naive or haphazard, I'm going to say so. Just like I would want you to do regarding myself. I appreciate the times when you tell me just what you think of me. It helps me to hopefully better myself and improve my way of approaching conversation with you. Friends?
I agree with you. I think had you more carefully read the additions to my post, you would see that. But I try not to generalize and assume that the whole movement is bad just because negative consequences can potentially come of it. You jump on Mike and myself a lot accusing us of making generalizations about Christians' attitudes and beliefs. Well, I see nothing different, here. From personal experience, I can tell you that my education was very fast and affective for the most part, but I was completely in the dark regarding how to interact with other people outside of my little Christian, home-schooling 'circle'. As such, I would never home-school my child. But not because it can't serve as a great education; because it can make children anti-social, as you already pointed out. Anyway, I'm off to do more important things than fight on the internet with someone I don't even know. You can believe me and take what I say as a mere observation, or you can take it as a shot. I don't really care by this point. Edited by JLocke - September 09 2010 at 18:28 |
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thellama73
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:24 |
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I was home schooled and was not offended by your post T (except that you're wrong about America
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:13 |
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We are not talking about home schooling. And about Pat and my words, he's a libertarian and he has spoken in defense of home-schooling, therefore it is not such an extravagant idea to assume he might have been home-schooled.
I don't even know why I take time to explain this to you. I should just leave you be, shouldn't I? I don't really care. I will not start thinking my words 20 times just so that they don't offend you. Sorry, wrong place. On the issue you have started (totally off-topic... there is a libertarian thread where we have talked about that )I have no idea about home-schooling. It's a phenomenon that doesn't exist in other places. I guess it can work if the parents are willing to make it work. But there are too many idiotic parents too. I'm not so sure about home-schooling's benefits for the person in regards to social interaction, though.
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JLocke
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 18:01 |
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The fact that you went out of your way to include home-schooling in your scenario when suggesting that the poster is misinformed implies that you look down on it. If you considered it no better or worse than public school, why not simply say 'school' as a general example and leave it at that? I'm not saying you intentionally sought out to offend home-schoolers (you didn't even really offend me), but you seem to be making assumptions about a topic you have heard negative things about in the past. Whether it be subconsciously or otherwise. Just trying to point that out to you. And if you want my opinion, I think home-schooling is very often used as an excuse for a parent to not properly educate her kid. But in my case, it worked out. Plenty of idiots have come out of home-schooling, but plenty of idiots have come out of private and public schooling as well. Edited by JLocke - September 09 2010 at 18:07 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 17:54 |
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Well you probably had good teacher(s). This is never guaranteed home or elsewhere. |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 17:53 |
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You really have to check your reactions JLocke, you tend to take offense for everything and misunderstand everything. I'm not sure why of course. You probably do. I clearly say in the post above "maybe in YOUR SCHOOL OR YOUR HOME-SCHOOL"... I'm including both options there, just because I don't know where Shields was schooled. By the way I don't watch South Park. For me it's garbage.
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JLocke
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 17:49 |
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Oh, dear. Must you always say something that strikes a personal nerve with me? I was home-schooled, and I learned geography just fine. I was also reading and writing at college-level by the time I hit high school. All thanks to that harmful, poor excuse for an education known as schooling at home. Please quit making generalizations about people based on something you saw South Park make light of. We're not all the same. 
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CCVP
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Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 16:21 |
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This discussion actually remembered me that Whose Line quote:
"Did you know Africa is a continent?"
Pure gold.
EDIT: Does the OP theme still matters at all at this point? Edited by CCVP - September 09 2010 at 16:24 |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:38 |
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"This remains the more common vision in Spain, Portugal and Latin American countries"
Ok. So there you get it. We're BOTH right, I can concede that. Oh, on the artic pole part, that was horrible really... But I had a few teachers who would disagree....
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thellama73
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:33 |
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From wikipedia: "A continent is one of several large landmasses on Earth. They are generally identified by convention rather than any strict criteria, with seven regions commonly regarded as continents – they are (from largest in size to smallest): Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia.[1]" and then: "North America and South America are now treated as separate continents in India, China, and most English-speaking countries, such as the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.[citation needed] Furthermore, the concept of two American continents is prevalent in much of Asia. However, in earlier times they were viewed as a single continent known as America, with this viewpoint remaining common in the United States until World War II.[13] This remains the more common vision in Spain, Portugal and Latin American countries, where they are taught as a single continent. This use is shown in names as the Organization of American States." We have the vast majority of the world's population on our side. So there. Also, I think you are the first person in human history to assert that the arctic pole is a continent. |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:27 |
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You are talking with people of all around the world. In the rest of the world, in books and atlases and everything, America is one big thing that goes from Argentina to Alaska and Canada and Greenland. There are just 5 continents. Asia, Europe, Africa, Oceania and America, plus two extra ones in Antarctica and the Artic Pole. That's it. Now don't go changing things. Or maybe in you school or your home-school you learned it that way. Good. Let's just say the rest of the world learned it the other way. And that's why people say you are wrong.
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thellama73
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:11 |
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I never said we had exclusive rights to the name. I said America is the name of our country and people shouldn't get bent out of shape when we use it. About the continent thing, Pat did an excellent job of correcting you, so I won't bother. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:08 |
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It is pretty fun when people are wrong, but still try to convince people of their position.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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CCVP
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:07 |
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Oh God, I'm loling so hard right now.
Great job Walter. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:01 |
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Wrong about me being wrong.
Yes it is a continuous landmass. So are Europe and Asia. They are still seperate continents.
There are 7 continents. NA, SA, Africa, Asia, Europe, Antartica. That's the definition of a continent. One of those 7 enumerated, defined masses. The fact that some of them are connected means nothing.
If you're going to be cocky, you should be right.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 12:21 |
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False. America is the entire continent. Named after Amerigo Vespucci. The entire thing. North and South. The whole landmass from alaska and canada till cabo de hornos in Argentina. |
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