Developments which changed course of prog history

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   Even though I was still a project in the early 70's, I can (from what I know) say that 
 
- Lake's move didn't kill Crimson.. though it enhanced ELP
- Brufford's move didn't kill Yes, though it enhanced KC
- Barret's departure from Pink Floyd, in my view, actually helped the band which released their greatest albums without him and with new true master Gilmour
- Fripp killed KC but has resurrected it so many times that his 74's move is hardly dramatic. 
- Fripp resurrecting KC in the 80's is important though the band (in my opinion) kind of.. sucked. But it was important for prog. 

- Anderson/Wakeman leaving Yes - though important, both eventually returned, and the Andersonless album (Drama) is not bad at all.... the band remained the same... 

 
The most dramatic for me: 
 
- Waters leaving PF.. the end of one of the greatest bands ever... it would never be the same without him
- Peter Gabriel - now this was hard.. the great singer and writer and showman leaving prog's greatest band.. it changed history mostly because it was the start of the end of an era, which arrived with..
- Hackett leaving Genesis - the final nail in the coffin for Symphonic Genesis, and the beginning of the band's pop career. I love a few Hackett-less albums (ATTTWT, duke) but one can't deny that, for prog history, this move really changed things. 
 

Edited by The T - May 06 2008 at 16:04

Poll Question: Which of these developments most affected the course of prog history?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Greg Lake leaving King Crimson to join ELP	42	[21.54%]
Bill Bruford leaving Yes to join King Crimson	10	[5.13%]
Peter Gabriel leaving Genesis for solo career	62	[31.79%]
Steve Hackett leaving Genesis for solo career	9	[4.62%]
Syd Barrett's departure from P Floyd and Gilmour's arrival	12	[6.15%]
Fripp deciding to end KC in 1974 at their 'peak'	45	[23.08%]
Roger Waters acrimonious departure from Floyd	2	[1.03%]
Anderson/Wakeman walking away from Yes at end of 70s	1	[0.51%]
Fripp resurrecting KC in the early 80s	12	[6.15%]
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The T Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493	Posted: May 06 2008 at 16:02
	Even though I was still a project in the early 70's, I can (from what I know) say that - Lake's move didn't kill Crimson.. though it enhanced ELP - Brufford's move didn't kill Yes, though it enhanced KC - Barret's departure from Pink Floyd, in my view, actually helped the band which released their greatest albums without him and with new true master Gilmour - Fripp killed KC but has resurrected it so many times that his 74's move is hardly dramatic. - Fripp resurrecting KC in the 80's is important though the band (in my opinion) kind of.. sucked. But it was important for prog. - Anderson/Wakeman leaving Yes - though important, both eventually returned, and the Andersonless album (Drama) is not bad at all.... the band remained the same... The most dramatic for me: - Waters leaving PF.. the end of one of the greatest bands ever... it would never be the same without him - Peter Gabriel - now this was hard.. the great singer and writer and showman leaving prog's greatest band.. it changed history mostly because it was the start of the end of an era, which arrived with.. - Hackett leaving Genesis - the final nail in the coffin for Symphonic Genesis, and the beginning of the band's pop career. I love a few Hackett-less albums (ATTTWT, duke) but one can't deny that, for prog history, this move really changed things. Edited by The T - May 06 2008 at 16:04


tszirmay Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6673	Posted: May 06 2008 at 15:56
	The biggest event is the arrival of the CD . The Golden Years of prog were left for dead in 1978 by which time too many bands were going commercial (Hi there Genee!) . There wouldn't be a PA without the advent of the compact disc (Old proggies getting CD reeditions) , as well as the success of Marillion. That being said , the main musical move is #2 because it affected both Yes and KC immensely. Waters leaving only affected Waters. Fripp frming and reforming KC is nothing new , after all KC always was a project.
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horsewithteeth11 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598	Posted: May 06 2008 at 14:58
	I choose option #2. Anderson felt that when both Howe and Bruford joined separately, they added something new to his perspective on music. Then add on the other couple dozen chain reactions that occured (and that I wouldn't have time to cover in this post) and Bruford's move is easily for me one of the most influential moments in progressive rock


MovingPictures07 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181	Posted: May 06 2008 at 14:52
	Wow, this is a good list! I narrowed it down to the first option, the second, the third, and the last. In the end, however, I had to vote the last option. What King Crimson has done with music, IMO, especially over all the years has been extremely important in prog's history.


Dr. Prog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 29 2008 Status: Offline Points: 306	Posted: May 06 2008 at 14:48
	I have always been fascinated by some of the choices/moves made during the heyday of 70s prog. Bruford leaving Yes at the peak of their popularity and not even touring on the CTTE album he made with the band; Gabriel 'walking out of the machinery' on the verge of superstardom; Fripp deciding to fold KC in the mid 70s so they wouldn't become a "dinosaur".....etc. So which of these events most affected the course of prog history, for better or worse in your view? Edited by Dr. Prog - May 07 2008 at 00:16