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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:17
I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 14:53
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?


hear  hear .. let us hear no more of Peter Hammill and semantics in this thread...

it probably is underrated...  some  think it is not up to par in comparison to  the rest of their albums...a textbook definition for underrated in the eyes of those who really like it LOLWink

then again... is comparing it to the rest of their albums fair.. considering you are really comparing apples and oranges.

quite simply the album bores me...  but that is just me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 14:01
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
 
Read my review; i am all with you, Sirco:!!!!!
 ISLANDS Heartis great!!!!!!!! and i haven't changed my opinion since 1972! a long time! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 13:41
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
The best you can is good enough...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 13:38
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Semantics are fun


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 11:22
Go get In Camera and The Silent Corner & the Empty Stage
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 11:18
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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since. Had he been born a few centuries ago, he would have been a circumnavigator.

that's arguable; if you follow the career of Peter Hammill you will see lots of tosses and turns there too, including territory Mr. Fripp never dared to put his foot into. or did Fripp ever write an opera?
I really meant Yes, Genesis, and ELP. VDGG are another group beyond reproach, and Hammill is every bit as important to moving rock forward as Bobby. Haven't heard his solo work yet, but it seems to be as well loved as the VDGG stuff, so I'll certainly have to give it a try
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:13
Semantics are fun
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:13
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

 Your quote:have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
 
That's here, dear!!! can we let go now , please!

so what? I didn't say the inaccurate statement was made by you.. Wink
anyway, no need to fuss about that


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:09
 Your quote:have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
 
That's here, dear!!! can we let go now , please!


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Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

You should buy a pair of glasses; my nickname is FEbus, not 1800iareayeLOLWink
 

perhaps it is YOU who should buy glasses; my first statement did not refer to you at all, yet you responded WinkTongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:04
You should buy a pair of glasses; my nickname is FEbus, not 1800iareayeLOLWink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 09:55
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

[QUOTE=BaldJean] [QUOTE=1800iareyay]
I have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
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Where did i say Fripp is the ONLY one who is exploring??????I don't  know  where you get your sources!!!!Big%20smile

I get my source here:
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Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since.

Here is your quote.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 09:50
Fracture = heart of King Crimson and blueprint for all their subsequent good music.

ITCOTCK = amusing distraction from better music. ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 09:50
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

I bought my last early KC album yesterday "Starless and bible black" now i gona start buy thiere more modern albums i got all stuff up to "Dicepline" what shuld i get next? I was thinking about the live album "Absent Lovers - Live in Montreal, 1984"  since i dont got any live album yet.
 
Have you got THE GREAT DECEIVER boxset yet?? or USA LIVE? If not , consider them especially now that USA Live remasterised has FRACTURE and STARLESS as extras.
 
About ABSENT LOVERS, it all depends if you are into ''New wave'' 80s Crimson or not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 09:44
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

[QUOTE=febus][QUOTE=BaldJean] [QUOTE=1800iareyay]
I have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
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Where did i say Fripp is the ONLY one who is exploring??????I don't  know  where you get your sources!!!!Big%20smile
 
But we don't want  this thread hijacked  and let's go back to KC, please! 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 09:09
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since. Had he been born a few centuries ago, he would have been a circumnavigator.

that's arguable; if you follow the career of Peter Hammill you will see lots of tosses and turns there too, including territory Mr. Fripp never dared to put his foot into. or did Fripp ever write an opera?
 
Is it possible to have a discussion with you where it doesn't come down always to Van der Hammill?? LOL  there is A life beyond GOD Peter; We are talking about KC here

I have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
by the way, Hammill and Fripp are befriended, and Fripp says about Hammill: "hat Jimi Hendrix did for the guitar, Peter Hammil did for the voice".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 08:49
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since. Had he been born a few centuries ago, he would have been a circumnavigator.

that's arguable; if you follow the career of Peter Hammill you will see lots of tosses and turns there too, including territory Mr. Fripp never dared to put his foot into. or did Fripp ever write an opera?
 
Is it possible to have a discussion with you where it doesn't come down always to Van der Hammill?? LOL  there is A life beyond GOD Peter; We are talking about KC here


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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since. Had he been born a few centuries ago, he would have been a circumnavigator.

that's arguable; if you follow the career of Peter Hammill you will see lots of tosses and turns there too, including territory Mr. Fripp never dared to put his foot into. or did Fripp ever write an opera?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 08:38
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

C'mon Micky, lets not be that way!
 
 
LTIA Rules!


I love that album.....  does anyone have a problem with Wetton's vocals on that album in particular.  He is not the greatest vocalist ever.. but I didn't think they were bad on it.  I know Raff thinks they are subpar on that one.


I LOVE Wetton's voice!  He's great on Book of Saturday and Exiles, and pretty good on Easy Money.  His best is probably The Night Watch, One More Red Nightmare, or Starless, but he is still excellent throughout LTiA.
 
 
I love JOHN WETTON voiceThumbs%20Up, but as i said in previous threads, his voice only got BETTER with age, as the opposite of a lot of rock singers who lost it like...GREG LAKE.  
 
I remember back then in 1973 when i bought LTIA, i was kind of thrown off by Wetton voice as i didn't find it very refined and kind of harsh at first. But now , he is my favorite singer;
You may or may not like ASIA or his solo works- that' s not the point- but we have to recognized that WETTON  has now a good mighty baritone voice, very clear and very powerful. Starting with LTIA, the quality of his voice improved albaum after album.
 
Happy recovery, John!


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