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JJLehto 
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
 Posted: November 13 2013 at 14:10 |
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And this http://www.nbcnews.com/business/big-business-tea-party-get-out-our-way-2D11577339 is why I said from the start "calm down liberals" and said the Tea Party experiment wont last too long. Besides the fact that the GOP really DOES NOT care about limited gov at all (yeah that may be an issue eh?) it was just too out there and rough edged for the masses. At least, hate him or not, Ron Paul was well spoken and had only minor issues with filtering
But none of that matters either. GOP is the party of big business, so in the end when BB says "we're tired of the crap Tea Party" that is the death of it.
So there ya go "liberal" Democrats! The Tea Party is dead now
And here's a great line that should shatter any forced belief that the Republicans are libertarian "Both used to be aligned on lower taxes and smaller government. Now the business community isn't so sure anymore. More and more of the business community depends on government contracts, regulations or tax policy to keep them in business" aka no one is limiting the size of government, they never have and they never will! Edited by JJLehto - November 13 2013 at 14:12 |
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: November 13 2013 at 08:11 |
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Yeah Christie was no shock at all. IDK how it was covered else where but he's quite popular here. Even among Democrats. People are a little less cult like with their party when they are really being squeezed and struggling...Honestly, only hate I've heard on Christie comes from party sheeple, people in the Dem party power structure, teachers (they refused to pay into their pension as he wanted, even though we all pay into theirs...plus ours) and that may be it. Some have said "he's a bully" but every successful politician is. Some media tried to stir up a scandal that "omg he once used a state helicopter for personal use" but c'mon....
I'll be honest have been too busy to pay much attention to the VA race, knew almost nothing about it.
I'm actually OK with Christie, I know he's a Republican therefore by default he's a fascist racist wants to be build a christian dictatorship woman and minority hating b*****d...but really he's pretty down to Earth and no nonsene.
He doesn't play the political bullsh*t game, fall into rhetoric and all that, just is doing his job (which is something I think government has lost, just trying to govern....instead of always campaigning and lining their pockets) and the states (unlikes the Federal Gov) DO need to balance their budgets. So while some Dems here hate him, he's just doing what is necessary for NJ, as any gov should for their state.
Again, unlike the Fed Gov that can run deficits, we can't. He has avoided talking about religion (thankfully), and doesn't play the whole moral conservative thing either. He did try to stop gay marriage which pissed me off to no end but no one is perfect. Also, shocker here: He's popular with minorities, the perpetual bain and joke of the GOP.
Turns out he has this radical plan to "win" minorities which is show up..http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/christie-minority-voters-republicans/2013/11/10/id/535835.whadya know? They really don't think any differently from us whities, and showing people respect, being willing to listen and not look like a hack is appealing
 I'm not saying I "like" the guy, but he's been pretty neutral, non political, not a religious freak who makes constant gaffes and wants to send us to the 1920s and is just trying to right our state budget. He's really not bad. As I said before, if anyone in that joke of a party has a brain cell, they'd take his advice and drop the "moral/social conservative" thing and focus on getting a message out there. It's 2013 no one really cares about social conservatism anymore. Even when they "do", they honestly don't Edited by JJLehto - November 13 2013 at 08:28 |
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: November 08 2013 at 10:37 |
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Yeah, he sucks. I guess a bunch of undecideds made the last minute decision to go for Cuccinelli.
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dtguitarfan
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Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
Posted: November 08 2013 at 08:53 |
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That's not shocking, really. McAuliffe is no prize. That election was a choice between pond scum and dog poop, and the people chose pond scum. |
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: November 06 2013 at 08:32 |
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More shocking than Christie was that McAuliffe only squeaked by when he was supposed to win by double digits.
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: November 06 2013 at 08:15 |
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Aaaaaaaand there it is. For all the liberals (or Democrat supporters that want to be liberals
) that were saying "oh yeah all this is clearly the death of the Republican party"
Turns out whadya know...like every single time one of the parties is resoundly beaten, after a few years they have sprung back with a new leader and plan.
If they have any smarts (which granted I question if they do) Christie and his no nonsense, lacking of social conservative talk is the way to go now. It's 2013 and despite the rallies of some, no one wants to hear this "send us back to 1920" moralist crap. He did try to hold up gay marriage, which I guess can score some brownie points with that crowd, and he's shown that willingness to "put aside politics" that we've been sorely lacking.
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dr wu23
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Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20623 |
Posted: October 14 2013 at 14:48 |
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For all the politicians who wave their flags and claim to be for the people: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel",
Samuel Johnson
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin |
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: October 14 2013 at 08:24 |
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Congress isn't nearly that popular!
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Icarium
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Posted: October 11 2013 at 17:16 |
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also very imporyant political news
New blue- blue govoument in Norway, Jens steps down as Primeminister and Erna is now Norways new primeminister. |
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:45 |
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 19 2013 at 05:17 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 10:16 |
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I've learned to avoid political discussion in real life. No one agrees with anyone. Its pointless. You can't change someone's mind unless they've already changed it themselves. Plus trying to explain your position is impossible if the other person is unfamiliar with the associated history, philosophy and terminology. The best you can usually do is agree on one particular issue or shake your head at something someone says. You can't even argue with people with your own ideology on the finer points..... tried that..... people are naturally intractable.
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The T
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 17:05 |
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My ignorance is my bliss
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 16:59 |
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^ Robert Fripp with a rifle ... I don't really see that working out.
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The T
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 16:46 |
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Slart, that pic would look even better with you holding, instead of a guitar, a rifle
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 15:45 |
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http://https://soundcloud.com/mike-in-raleigh/sequestration
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 23:55 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 23:39 |
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The T
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 13:34 |
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^That's old, but still true.
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 13:24 |
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