Radiohead

goose wrote: Oh and, progressive rock is more than a genre. To my ears progressiveness is something music can have, regardless of what style it is, like loudness, or slowness, or aggressiveness, etc. etc (although, obviously, to be progressive rock, it must be rock!). Thus I have no qualms about an alternative rock band being in the archives. If anybody thinks there is a single unified sound to prog, try and equate Yes, ELP, Rush, Jethro Tull and Tangerine Dream!

I TOTALLY agree. I get the impression  on this board from some people that something isn't prog unless it has a 70s sound or has a synth player. I think thats a vary narrow-minded view of the genre. "Progressive" in my view is more of an addition to whatever the genre of the music really is... for example, you can have metal, punk, classic rock, whatever... and any band from any of those sub-genres can play progressive music... including alternative groups! The core progressive rock bands on the site, such as Yes, ELP, Gentle Giant, etc... are called symphonic progressive rock groups. No group is simply prog. I don't think the word, as a genre identification, works in the same way that other genre identifications. Prog refers not just to the style of the music, but to the music's content.

I probably could have made that clearer, but I think I got the point across...

Give it up people - there are hundreds of bands on the archive - a lot I don't agree with but I'm not screaming about it like a bunch of schoolgirls. It's one band for heaven's sake!

and they are progressive

What I don't get is how we gladly accept The Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree into here (both bands with just as much alt-rock influence as Radiohead), yet we try to add RH and apparently it's the apocalypse.

No Useful, just because 72% of the people here and all the serious prog' pages or enciclopedias (GEPR, Progressor, etc) don't consider them progressive, that's the reason.

Iván

frenchie wrote: please remove radiohead from the site max and maani!!! the people have spoken, the poll is direct proof. i am really angry at this move because before there was a strict prog only policy when people were suggesting bands like radiohead, whats going on?

Just because you don't consider them prog doesn't mean they aren't...

ivan_2068 wrote: By the way Useful I just logged Out and logged in again to verify what you swaid  and I'm not allowed to vote again. Iván

Really?  I was just able to do it with the Dream Theater thread (although it only worked once).  I'm also pretty sure that if you vote from a different computer it will let you vote again.

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Useful, to be honest I didn't knew it, but even if it's true, this works for the two sides.

Iván

I believe Max has the last word and he should decide if a band is added or not, but in this specific case of Radiohead there was a poll, and 55 members gave their opinion:

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Poll Question: Should Radiohead be in the archives? Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics Yes 15 [27.27%] No 40 [72.73%]

 72.73% of the people here doesn't believe Radiohead should be in the Archives (almost 3 of each 4), I believe this result deserves some attention.

The only other page I consider in the level of ProgArchives is GEPR and they don't include it, so I believe there was no hurry in including them.

Iván

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frenchie wrote: this site has fallen apart. Great band and all but they are not prog, now who knows what bands are gonna be added here, and voivod? NO! prog my arse. i am very angry at this after we had a petition of whether they shud be allowed on and more people said NO! so what do they do? f**king add them to the site!

Proof that nobody here takes the question of 'what is prog' too seriously.

And if Voivod isn't prog, neither is Rush.

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philippe wrote: * RADIOHEAD * - Ok Computer Review by Eliott Minkovitch @ 7:34:33 AM EST, 1/16/2005   —   This kind of stuff should not be on this site, I hope someone will wake up and remove it. Since when did alternative rock become progressive rock? You might as well add Green Day, Chemical Brothers and other techno-crap. And oh, throw in David Bowie too. And why not Oasis or Nirvana?   ENTERELY TRUE!! WELL SAID!!

This is not a review, and thoughts like this should be expressed on the forum and not added as a review, of course that's merely my opinion.

Having said this, shouldn't there be a possibility on the site to review the artist, so besides the summary provided by the progarchives, a submit review part added to that, so these kinds of reviews make more sense and it is easy to see how good a band is or how they are looked upon by the reviewers.(star-ratings added aswel)

just a thought of course.