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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 18:05 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Since you mentioned to make it a personal vendetta to keep Led Zep out of Prog Archives I don't take you serious. What's next: Jimmy Page is an average guitar player ...? |
He was terribly sloppy live.
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chopper
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 18:04 |
He's not the most technically gifted (Ian Paice is far better) but he just has a sound that nobody else has ever matched. Just listen to "When The Levee Breaks" or "In My Time of Dying" - and the two mighty tom tom hits at the end of "Custard Pie". Awesome.
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Padraic
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 17:11 |
I think this thread is a waste of time. I don't feel like saying why.
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Philéas
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 17:11 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
You start a thread saying a (mostly) beloved
drummer is widly overrated and can't be bothered to say why???
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Now that he can see some opposition, he will probably answer.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 17:09 |
Sasquamo wrote:
Seriously, I think John Bonham is a wildly overrated drummer. I really don't think he's that great. Does anyone agree? I don't feel like listing all of my aruguments against him until I see some real opposition. |
You start a thread saying a (mostly) beloved drummer is widly overrated and can't be bothered to say why???
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Philéas
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:56 |
He's definitely overrated. He sure was good, but there are many far superior drummers.
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WaywardSon
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Joined: April 23 2006
Location: Brazil
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:54 |
I would say that he was good, but IMHO there were a lot of better rock drummers in the seventies.
Ian Paice, Brian Downey and Cozy Powell spring to mind.
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:51 |
He's perfect for the band he was in and has an amazing powerful sound that I really dig.
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Cristi
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:50 |
Sasquamo wrote:
Seriously, I think John Bonham is a wildly overrated drummer. I really don't think he's that great. Does anyone agree? I don't feel like listing all of my aruguments against him until I see some real opposition. |
Overrated?! NO way. He is one of my favourite drummers, listen to any live albums - BBC Sessions, The Song Remains the Same and obviously to all ZEP albums. WILDLY overrated?! boy you've got me confused!
Edited by Cristi - October 19 2006 at 16:59
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:48 |
Since you mentioned to make it a personal vendetta to keep Led Zep out of Prog Archives I don't take you serious. What's next: Jimmy Page is an average guitar player ...?
Edited by erik neuteboom - October 19 2006 at 16:49
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andu
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Joined: September 27 2006
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:48 |
No.
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Sasquamo
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Joined: September 26 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 16:44 |
Seriously, I think John Bonham is a wildly overrated drummer. I really don't think he's that great.
Anyway, this is the main reason I don't like John Bonham's drumming: I think it's boring. He often plays the same simple beats over and over again with little or (more often) no variation. He seems to use one of the most simple rock beats ever (1 and 3 on bass drum, 2 and 4 on snare, eighth notes on hi-hat) a lot in the music. Also, he doesn't seem to care about the phrasing of the music. At the end of phrases, he often just plays time, when the music screams for a fill to fill in the empty space. He doesn't play many fills at all. I also find that his fills are often boring, which isn't helped when he plays the exact same fill again in the song. When I listen to him drumming I often get the impression that he his playing off of a chart.
Does anyone agree?
Edited by Sasquamo - October 20 2006 at 16:11
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