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Peter
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:14 |
I do not agree, but GG are certainly NOT to all tastes.
In the end, it all comes down to individual tastes, not the "ability to write a decent song" or a "catchy" song. ![Stern Smile](smileys/smiley22.gif)
GG's fans are many, and for us, they write very good songs indeed! ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
Anyway, now that you've got that off your chest, you probably feel better. ![Ermm](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)
(There are artists I don't like as well, but I don't really feel any need to list them, or ask for validation or approbation of my feelings. ![Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif) )
Whatever.
Edited by Peter Rideout - April 22 2006 at 11:15
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:13 |
There's a band called Yezda Urfa in the archives. They seem to be coming from roughly the same headspace as GG and are much better, IMO. Shame there's only one song available, here:
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:13 |
Spocks beard are mostly boring.... but they have elements of greateness...and of GG harmonies..I find the music from spocks NOT CONSTINENT GG are mostly greateness. Spocks beard are PUDDLE POP with some GG elements
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:06 |
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:04 |
They use some of the instrumental harmonies as a shell for popish MAIN stuff... First opinion, and I have listened too litle...
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:59 |
Ok.. I must admit....listened too litle too spocks beard
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:47 |
oscar wrote:
Gentle giant has something that is not easy too describe. But I can trully understand people that have difficulties with them...But comparing with spocks beard.... Too different categories and styles and epokes
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I'd say all music (except the very simplest maybe) has something that is hard, or impossible to describe. Like I said before, I listened to the band attentively and I'm pretty certain I managed to catch hold of that something that GG has. Only that I simply didn't find it interesting.
Spocks Beard has some GG influence and they sometimes get criticised here for watering it down. So there is some common ground for comparison, IMO.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:39 |
Gentle giant has something that is not easy too describe. But I can trully understand people that have difficulties with them...But comparing with spocks beard.... Too different categories and styles and epokes
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:21 |
Sorry, I do not know Spock's Beard. I cannot say anything about them. But what I can say is this: Dream Theater is good, Gentle Giant is better ![Big smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) .
Or in other words: I like Dream Theater and I love Gentle Giant.
Edited by Odd24 - April 22 2006 at 10:23
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:18 |
By sheer coincidence I picked up the first Gentle Giant album last night. (used for $5). Listened to it and it just didn't hit me like some other stuff has. I do like complex stuff like Zappa and Opeth and Yes and Tull etc. Maybe I just haven't listened to it enough yet, but it seems to have an air of "tried to but couldn't". I'll give it a few more tries though.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:43 |
Odd24 wrote:
[QUOTE=Visitor13]
Does anyone else agree with me?
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Does anyone say something bad about the sacred Gentle Giant? How dare U!! ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
But anyway, any Gentle Giant cd (except the last 3) contains
more interesting stuff than the complete Bitches Brew sessions ![Sleepy](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif) by Miles Davis. I will nag this 4CD box till my dying ![Dead](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif) day. Probably I don't understand that kind of "complex music" because I am not a graduate at the conservatory....
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Hey! Hey! Hey! Whoa! ![Disapprove](smileys/smiley13.gif) Let's not go that far! This is turning into a forum attacking some of my favorite music (again ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Ouch](smileys/smiley18.gif) ) Bitches Brew is Sacred and Holy to me ![Embarrassed](smileys/smiley9.gif) . How about we just attack Spock's Beard?
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:42 |
Odd24: Kind of a strange comparison. I personally like 'Bitches Brew' much more than GG, and I haven't studied at a music school, either.
Memo: But you're not actually forcing yourself to like them, are you? That would be counterproductive.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:30 |
Gentle Giant is one of the finest bands here, im sure that they are great musicans , bu t i have severa lproblems with them, i have always attempt to dig them and to like them, and i like but only for a moment, i cant listen to them so much, because i cant really"understand" them, i dont know how to explain myself better, but this is my point of view.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:23 |
Visitor13 wrote:
Does anyone else agree with me?
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Does anyone say something bad about the sacred Gentle Giant? How dare U!! ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
But anyway, any Gentle Giant cd (except the last 3) contains more interesting stuff than the complete Bitches Brew sessions ![Sleepy](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif) by Miles Davis. I will nag this 4CD box till my dying ![Dead](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif) day. Probably I don't understand that kind of "complex music" because I am not a graduate at the conservatory....
Edited by Odd24 - April 22 2006 at 09:27
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:21 |
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:07 |
They're an aquired taste and that's good so. People like the author of this pointless thread simply can't appreciate what GG was about. Keep listening to Spock's Beard and be happy.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 08:56 |
He probably will not Arsillus, but the fenomen Gentle Giant is worth discussing. Likes and dislikes is worth discussing
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 08:54 |
If you don't like them, don't listen to it.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 08:41 |
Visitor13 wrote:
On the whole, I like Spock's Beard more. They're not as complex and much more poppy. And maybe this is why I find them better - because they're simpler they're more catchy. And they stay catchy, as well, while Gentle Giant stay average. A case of less is more.
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That just about says it all. I bet you would like Civilian or Giant For A Day. The last few Genesis albums, perhaps? Or maybe some nice uncomplex & poppy Backstreet Boys?
Just kidding, really. Some bands just don't appeal to some people. It happens.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 08:31 |
I am glad you said "IMO" cause I dont agree... In myopinion GG is VERY catchy... Theyr harmonies vocally and instrumentally really gave me a cick when I learned to know and love them. The MELODIES may not be so melodious, but I am addicted too the harmonies, originality and vitality
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