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Syntharachnid 
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 Posted: April 21 2006 at 21:03 |
I've always considered VdGG "dark prog". But if we set that up as a subgenre, Van Der Graff and Hammill would likely have it all to themselves. 
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bamba
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:57 |
I think its a good change 
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:52 |
This change is a big surprise although I thought a lot of times of a "Hard Prog" subgenre, but when I thought it the bands that came to my mind inmediatly were Rush, Kansas, Uriah Heep, etc... Maybe (only maybe, Crimson have their own style) King Crimson could be in that section, but VDGG and Gentle Giant?... Both are, to my mind, symphonic prog.
Hard Prog it's a genre that, for me, should be a place for bands harder than the majority but obviously softer than prog-metal. Like I said before, bands like Rush are the perfect example of this hipothetic kind of prog.
(Sorry for the poor english, I hope you understand me).
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:49 |
Great minds think alike... 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:48 |
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I just could have saved myself a hundred posts of arguing and several hours of work if I had known that ProgLucky would do just like I initially suggested.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:47 |
 MikeEnRegalia wrote:
ProgLucky wrote:
Hello Rust,
With pleasure...!
Cheers... ProgLucky |
I will consider leaving the archives alltogether because of this move - at least as a collaborator. |
Relax Mike, don't take it so personally  Of course it was a rather unpredicted move, but it does solve the problem...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:34 |
ProgLucky wrote:
Hello Rust,
With pleasure...!
Cheers... ProgLucky |
I will consider leaving the archives alltogether because of this move - at least as a collaborator.
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ProgLucky
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:31 |
Hello Rust,
With pleasure...!
Cheers... ProgLucky
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Rust
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:22 |
Just another great progressive "reform"  this site has made during these past couple of days, making a great site perfect. Keep it up guys! 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:13 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:07 |
Yep, a great compromise to all the debates 
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greenback
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 20:02 |
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to me, hard prog is hard rock progressive, like rush's 2112, gentle giant's first one, nektar...
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Logan
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 19:58 |
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I certainly hadn't thought Gentle Giant should be classified as
symphonic prog -- chamber prog does seem more suitable... Calling them
hard prog isn't great since the bands' beauty to my mind is how they
mix styles... blah blah. I think I like the term tempered prog.
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eddietrooper
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 19:58 |
If hard means "complex" or "hard to get into" it makes sense with the three bands. Not a bad idea.
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video vertigo
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Posted: April 21 2006 at 19:46 |
I noticed King Crimson and Van der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant in a new category "Hard Prog" I agree completely with the first two but I don't know about Gentle Giant. It'll be interesting to see who else falls into Hard Prog.
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