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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 08:49
Where opposites meet: the one proghead admits he has never heard of a progrock scene in Japan, the other proghead delivers an excellent article about Japanese prog from a foreign label/paper (Record Heaven)!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:19

Check out Le Silo! Just got the CD [8.8] and it is sublime!!! [this is another Yoshida spin off FYI those who care - his other bands are such as Ruins, Koenji Hyakkei, Tipographica, KOREKYOJIN, etc etc...

http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~tolsilo/contents/lesiloeigo.html


Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:39

Originally posted by DarioIndjic DarioIndjic wrote:

I'm surprised that there is no members from Japan on this site!

Obviously you didn't read this thread, otherwise you'd see that there is.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:01
I'm surprised that there is no members from Japan on this site!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 12:07
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 10:43

What an incredible coincidence: while just reading the latest reactions on this thread (thanks again everybody  ), I receive a parcel from Background Magazine (Dutch progrock magazine I write for since many years) with ... two Japanese bands! The first is Walrus with two albums (their first is wonderful and a bit early Genesis inspired with Mellotron), the second is Quikion, a prog-folk band with great female vocals, virtuosic accordion play and lots of worldwide ethnic instruments like the Greek bouzouki and the Indian tampura, very interesting music if you like folk (on the Japanese Poseidon label).

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 06:07

Great job on the japanese prog, Erik and Co. (I wasn´t on time to participate in the beginning of the thread...)!!!!

I think that all has been said, but pertaining Gerard, guess I prefer the keyboard power trio after the first albuns. Their latest album is great!

Cheers!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 06:04
I've heard good stuff about Tipographica. Gonna have to check them out.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 05:37
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Don't forget to listen to Mono . A very good post-rock band from Japan too. 


I was just about to mention Mono - they are a great band (sound a lot like Explosions in the Sky).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2006 at 05:26

          A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE JAPANESE PROGRESSIVE ROCK

      (based upon an article in the French progrock magazine Harmonie from 1987)

 

The history of the Japanese progressive rock  be divided into four parts.

 

Part I:

The roots are in in the late Sixties and early Seventies, between 1969 and 1971. It was a very experimental era, influenced by the German cosmic rock (like TANGERINE DREAM and ASHRA TEMPLE) and the Anglo-Saxon progressive rock like PINK FLOYD. Soon many bands emerged in Japan like N. Morichita, April Foot, Hiro Yanagida (a legend in Japan, the album “Milk Time” is excellent), Too Much, Tatuo Inada, Stroberry Pass, Speedgrov & Shinki, Food Brain, Love Live Life, Far Out and  J.A. Seezar.

In those days the Japanese public was not very interested in their own music and more and more musicians started to play on rock instruments like guitar, bass and drums and even typical progressive rock instruments like the Mellotron.

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This era spans the time between 1972 and 1977. Slowly we can witness the birth of the Japanese progressive rock, influenced by the UK symphonic rock dinosaurs Yes, King Crimson, Genesis and Pink Floyd. The first results are albums like “An Old Castle In Transylvania” by Cosmos Factory and “Golden Picnics” by Yonin Bayashi. Some bands even got attention from the European public like Far East Family Band, Chronicle, Kitaro, Osamu Kitajima and of course Stomu Yamashta. Despite the European recognition, most bands remain loyal in keeping traditional Japanese elements into their progrock.

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In this period (between 1978 and 1984) the Japanese progheads really started to appreciate their own progrock scene that blossomed in those years. One of the oldest and most legendary is Novela featuring keyboard wizard Toshio Egawa (who later went to splendid Gerard) and Terutsugo Hirayama. Other great bands were Gerard, Bi Kyo Ran, Shingetsu, Mandrake, Ain-Soph, Dada and Kenso.

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This is an era (between 1985 and 1987) of maturity, influenced by the UK and Italian progrock: a rich sonority, elaborate compositions, melodic refinement and an omnipresence by vintage keyboards, especially the ubiquitous Mellotron. It delivers many outstanding and exciting bands like Outer Limits, Pageant, Mugen, Negapshere, Pale Acute Moon, Bellaphon, Mr. Sirius, Black Page, Fromage, Ataraxia, Magdalena, Kennedy and Vermillion Sands. Although it is a very prolific period, there is an almost cruel concurrence and many bands don’t survive. It seems that the abundancy, like in nature, created natural selection in the Japanese progressive rock scene too. But those that managed to survive are very interesting like Outer Limits, Gerard and Mugen.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 16:38

Japan has one of the best prog scene of the world,Japanese Prog  i own:

 

Gerard (which is one of my favorite bands),their first album is one of my top 10 of all time.

Teru'Symphonia

Outer Limits

Shingetsu(one of the Japanese best)

Far East Family Band(excellent psychedelic prog!)

Ars Nova

Keyboard Trio(which is a compilation )

Mugen

 

I love keyboard work in Japanese prog bands ,i think they keyboard players are one of the best, even equaling those from Italian scene.

Thanks to Eric Neuteboom to opening this thread!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 15:42
Only familiar with Ain Soph. Gotta' check out their debut soon!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 15:19
Hello Erik & Co!

I don't think I'm as much of a prog fanatic as some of you seem to be, but I have been a dedicated fan of Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Caravan, National Health, King Crimson, Bruford and other prog bands since the 1970s.
All this is just to say that the Japanese band Kenso has impressed me deeply. I would definitely include their album FABULIS MIRABILIBUS DE BOMBYCOSI SCRIPTIS in my all-time prog Top Twenty. (And YUME NO OKA isn't bad either.)
Like Honganji (Nishi or Higashi?) I also admire the virtuoso fusion guitarist Kazumi Watanabe, especially his albums SPICE OF LIFE II (co-starring Bill Bruford and Jeff Berlin) and KILOWATT (with Patrick Moraz and Wayne Shorter, among others.) I bought KILOWATT through Amazon.co.uk a few years ago and it was not particularly expensive. Definitely a must for BRAND X or BRUFORD freaks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:39

Great to notice that so many experts and 'Nippon progheads' has joined this thread, thanks!

Today I found a French progrock magazine (from 1987) in my collection featuring a Japanese progrock special, I will do my best to translate this into decent English. It contains a brief history, recommendations and an interview with the owner of Japanese progrock magazine Marquee, perhaps the most beautiful one in the world!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:11

My favourite Japanese prog albums:

  1. Vermilion Sands - Water Blue
  2. Shingetsu - Shingetsu
  3. Pageant - Mosaique D'Un Reverie

Three great albums, and I have the idea that I will like Mugen's Sinfonia Della Luna as well.

I tried Gerard and although I like their virtuosity, I don't really like their compositions  . It bothers me a bit, because Gerard should have been everything I like, very keyboard driven and ELP / UK - like. But for some reason, I don't like their music very much. I really think it's the compositions. That's always my main reason for liking or disliking a band.

But there are certainly some Japanese cd's I would like to check out! Starting with Mugen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:17
Originally posted by honganji honganji wrote:

i erik neuteboom: Japanese albums are notorious for its expensiveness. I wish many foreign labels would release Japanese albums. There are many masterpieces which haven't been reissued outside of Japan. So many fans must buy expensive Japanese issue.   It obstructs to inform Japanese progressive rock for world wide.

 

I feel de ja vu here. But for (repeated) completeness, would add:

Foodbrain: early 70's psychedelic jazzrock

Kennedy: late 80's heavy rock/jazz rock band - their live album Kennedy! includes an extended cover fo Mahavishu's Birds Of Fire

Casiopea: jazz rock group who started in the late 70's and seems to be still going!

http://www.answers.com/topic/casiopea

And probably the best Japanese jazz rock guitarist, with a very distinctive sound: Kazumi Watanabe - check out his work with Bill Bruford and Jeff Berlin as his rhythm section, i.e. the two Spice Of Life albums, also Mobo albums.

Agree up to a point wrt cost of Japanese albums. However, the French prog specialist Musea Records, has reissued a number of Japanese recordings, e.g. Bi Kyo Ran, Kennedy, at reasonable prices. And I was shocked how many and how cheap Kazumi Watanabe albums were in Singapore's main branch of HMV. The US label (amongst several) Gramavision have issued ~6 Kazumi Watanabe albums (including the one's named above). I see Spice Of Life Too is listed at 75 dollars US in Amazon.US at the moment, perhaps because the label do seem to delete their  albums from the catalogue very quickly. However, Amazon UK list it at under 18 quid............

 

Shop around!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 10:34

Anyone knows the 28 minutes epic of X Japan "Art of life" , is a heavy metal song  but is a master piece.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2006 at 20:06
Don't forget to listen to Mono . A very good post-rock band from Japan too. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2006 at 18:22

English song albums

  • Love Live Life + One / Love Will Make A Better You
  • Outer Limits /  A Boy Plying The Magical Bugle Horn
  • Quaser / Out From Quaser
  • Strawberry Path / When The Raven Has Come To The Earth
  • Madoromi / The Hardest Live '76
  • Magritte Voice / Magritte Voice
  • Deja Vu / Baroque In The Future
  • Cinderella Search / Stories Of Luminous Garden
  • Marble Sheep / Stone Marby

etc, etc

Usually Japanese don't sing in English. If I use words in my song, I must use Japanese.

Coined words

  • Koenjihyakkei
  • Katra Turana
  • Ruins

Yoshida Tatsuya usually sings in his word. He doesn't think Japanese fits to his music. Katra Turana's lyrics are coined by Hiroike Atsushi.

Why many Japanese bands use other languages on their name ?  Is it strange ? There are many cases outside of Japan. Though they don't come from English countries, many bands use English name on them. Same pattern.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2006 at 17:50

I know just a few. Here´s more bands.

Tsurubami. Gekkyukekkaichi
Zoffy.
Les Rallizes Denudes.
Taj Mahal Travellers.
Ghost. Tune In, Turn On, Free Tibet!
Boredoms. Vision Creation Newsun
Acid Mothers Temple.
Kawabata Makoto.
Father Moo.
Phew. (she recorded an album with Can's members Holger Czukay)

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