Recommended "MP3" player for prog use?

 Ok, then let's make a listening test! I'm willing to bet that you won't hear the difference (on standard headphones). And don't tell me that there's no way to enjoy music without the proper system ... that's the biggest lie (sorry - myth) about hifi.

BTW: I know good systems - I've listened to systems that even oliver would approve of. But that doesn't mean that I cannot listen to mp3 anymore - I'm aware of its shortcomings, and I can live with them.

oliverstoned wrote: Before we continue this any further ... remember that one can enjoy music on crappy, medium or hifi systems. that's true, as long as you only know a crappy, medium or hifi system. But you don't know what you miss. And sorry, i didn't want to be arrogant. Just that it makes me laugh that you think like a computer...You have a processor instead of the brain! Do you feel emotions?

That's exactly my point. Even 100 years ago with REALLY crappy radios people enjoyed listening to the MUSIC. The emotions are in the music, not in the technology.

oliverstoned wrote: There you are again, with you measures and bandwidth! That would be too simple, my little friend!

Why do you French people always come across so arrogant?

BTW: My mobile player is MOBILE. It is small, and my headphones are small:

Before we continue this any further ... remember that one can enjoy music on crappy, medium or hifi systems.

Jay Klmnop wrote: Wow. Thanks for all the info. I'll add one thing: It must have a removeable battery, preferrably AA or AAA since I already have tons of very high mah rechargeables for this. I don't care how long they last; it's easy to change and keep an extra one. I'm thinking of going really cheap the first time since i'ts impossible to make the best choice first time, and buying the Creative Nomad Mu Vo with no screen and 128mg. It's only 24 bucks new at Amazon. I like the look of that Panasonic above. I'd guess it has a built-in battery right?

Yes, a built in battery which lasts approx. 10 hours. It also came with a case which protects the player against water and has room for one standard battery, which adds another 40 hours.

I don't know if they still make this player though - I bought it 3 years ago!

Wow. Thanks for all the info.

I'll add one thing: It must have a removeable battery, preferrably AA or AAA since I already have tons of very high mah rechargeables for this. I don't care how long they last; it's easy to change and keep an extra one.

I'm thinking of going really cheap the first time since i'ts impossible to make the best choice first time, and buying the Creative Nomad Mu Vo with no screen and 128mg. It's only 24 bucks new at Amazon.

I like the look of that Panasonic above. I'd guess it has a built-in battery right?

I have a 20GB Creative Zen on which I have over 4500 prog songs.

It sounds fine to me (I auditioned many including IPod but this sounds better) and although audiophiles will be disgusted,I find it the perfect solution to Prog On The Move!