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Why aren't most Zoomers into progressive rock? |
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Easy Money 
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I teach music to a lot of young people. Today's youngster is not much into bands or live music. Go to your local live music club and you will see mostly middle-aged and older.
Most young people I know are into music you can do by yourself with a phone, ipad or computer. They like electronica, rap, hip-hop, video game soundtracks etc. I quit teaching guitar because few kids want to rock out anymore. Oddly enough, playing a band instrument and getting in the school marching band still has its appeal and I still get a lot of students on saxophone and flute because of that. I still have a lot of piano students too who like a wide variety of music including classical. Edited by Easy Money - January 18 2024 at 07:37 |
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Jacob Schoolcraft
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Posted: January 18 2024 at 05:01 |
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Perhaps some zoomers are turned off by the fact that Prog can and will get busy or become complex? Although a lot of zoomers may enjoy FAIRYTAIL..the original soundtrack by YASUHARU TAKANASHI which we are reminded of Jethro Tull, Mike Oldfield, Goblin..etc.
Because we are living in a completely different world. A world where video game soundtracks are taken as seriously as ELP were in 1973... Yet this completely different world will often acknowledge Jimmy Page as a important figure from my generation while being dismissive of many other innovators from the 60s and 70s. Does that even make any sense? Page was originally liked alongside everyone else in the early 70s. That's an actual fact. But the information circulating now apparently this is all made up B.S. Complete exaggeration through journalism for whatever pointless reason. A lot of zoomers are spoon fed by Prog reviewers on YouTube who weren't born in the later 50s or early 60s and have no realization of what Prog meant to the youth in those times. Many of them have negative points to make about all the positive things we experienced in our youth and a lot of positive points to make about the things that many people found insignificant in those times. They seem so certain. So confident. So confused and wrong. Is there any reason to believe what they're saying? Is it a slippery slope to not believe in this made up bs? No it isnt...that's called reasoning |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: January 18 2024 at 03:00 |
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Because Zoomers are Doomers about good tastes & colours?
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted: January 18 2024 at 02:09 |
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^ Not only Spock's Beard
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 23:40 |
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The default position for any generation is to not to care about music that is art based. There are plenty of boomers with horrible music taste to go round. A good tune is more important to the vast majority but that may be because they don't know any different. Arguably Prog rock as a movememt was an abhorration or one time deal that had to be spoon fed through albums like DSOTM and Crime Of The Century for the populace to understand it. Even the supposedly high minded Rolling Stone mag failed to 'get' it when they decided that ITCOTCK was just pretentious junk. Inevitably prog was discarded very easily when some idiots (the cabal that is the music industry) decided that punk was the future instead. That was a lot easier to sell and they didn't need to work hard to do it. You didn't even need to find people who could play an instrument properly.
Further on I don't think there is any reason for modern equivalents of prog to be recognised. It's not even about attention span. I have a terrible attention span and always have. The music industry is by far the biggest problem. It does nothing and Spocks Beard even wrote a song (a very long song!) about this but no one is literally listening and that's a horrible irony just in itself. Zoomers will find their own way good or bad. If they care about music they will find something good, and it may be in Rap or Hip Hop rather than so called 'prog' which barely exists as a thing anyway. Prog as a movement hasn't existed for a long time. It's part of history and it would need to be taught at schools to get a wider appreciation. I'm guessing that DSOTM is still the go to prog album for any generation but it's only going to scatch the surface.
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 19:54 |
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I think the inaccessible nature of prog (on the whole, obviously it's a spectrum) makes it unpalatable to most people regardless of their generation. Contrary to what you're saying, I know more people that are around my age (I'm a Z-llenial, sort of transitional) that like eclectic music than those I know who are older that enjoy the same. That being said, most of them are musicians like me. So I think that helps, as prog and many of its associated genres (or unrelated ones that certain prog connoiseurs tend to enjoy in the jazz, metal, classical, electronic, modernist, etc. vein) tend to appeal more to people who also make music. Not exclusively, of course. But that's my experience.
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 19:54 |
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I'm a Gen Z-er but one of the early ones (born '96).
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 19:41 |
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I've lost more than one proggin friend to Indie, which is an alright Genre, I can appreciate it. Even there, there are some elements of Psych and Maybe even hints of prog here and there. Whenever I listen to it, one could hear these influences.
Mac DeMarco (a name I NEVER thought I'd mention on this site) owes a lot of his influence to some bands like Steve Miller, I've even seen him use a 12 string on a track or two. A lot of it's pop/rock, but imo it's better than a lot of really mainstream stuff. Some of the Indie-Folk stuff I quite enjoy, stuff like Mumford and Sons, very talented individuals, just not my style
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 19:33 |
I concur.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 19:03 |
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'Zoomer' (Gen Z) is the term for those who experienced the Covid Lockdown during schooling and had to use the video calling website Zoom to be taught and communicate, etc.
The new generation who weren't quite old enough to experience this are called Gen Alpha I think that's correct. I'm part of Gen Z / The Zoomers, so I feel qualified to answer this (And yes, it's a play on 'Boomer' before you ask)
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 18:59 |
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Zoomer?? Is that anything like a Groomer? Or perhaps a Tumour?
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 18:30 |
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 17:28 |
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I really don't think the disregard for prog, or anything off the beaten path for that matter, is a unique trait to any one generation.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 16:19 |
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As a zoomer, I think most of my peers brains can't handle it
 They have no attention spans
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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Posted: January 17 2024 at 16:11 |
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As a Zoomer myself, I think the reason why Zoomers aren't really into progressive rock that much is because of the fact that most of its history surrounds itself in the 70s and '80s. I don't think it has anything to do with Zoomers getting dumber because that's a reactionary stereotype, however. It's essentially the fact that they wouldn't know the foundational prog bands because they don't really listen to music like that.
What do y'all think?
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