Your Prog Rock Hot Takes

The New Decemberists album is the finest they've ever put out, not sure if that's a hot take, since it's new, but Joan in the Garden alone is amazing

Cristi wrote: Hrychu wrote: (non prog) hot take: public restrooms should be categorized by preferred way of urination and not by gender. B) I've never thought I'd see "urination" mentioned in the prog lounge, strange days we're living.  Have we run out of prog hot takes?!

Cristi wrote: Have we run out of prog hot takes?

(non prog) hot take: public restrooms should be categorized by preferred way of urination and not by gender. B)

Yes. I agree. It can absolutely be done with taste! That's pretty much how a lot of fusion musical genres all around the world came into existence! Just do it wisely.

suitkees wrote: Hrychu wrote: Not a prog hot take but still a music hot take. White Polish artists adopting (or more like copying) African-American gangsta rap/trap music stylistics is pretty much blackface without the makeup, similar to Polish reggae except here, even more contrived and fake. :v I cringe so friggin hard whenever I see all those trap mannerisms copied and pasted by local artists from my homeland, who mindlessly shoehorn in AAVE phrases,slang terms (remember kids: shіt ≠ gówno!!!!!) and even speech stress and prosody, into the Polish language. It's a different country with different musical traditions. Get over it. Because the Polish race has to remain pure? With pure Polish music? I guess you don't like it either when polish musicians play - let's say - Jazz or Blues or... Prog Rock!

You completely missed the point I tried to make. It's not about staying "pure" but more about calquing stuff that doesn't translate well into another language or cultural landscape and ending up looking awkward and artificial. B)

And honestly, it's mostly fine. Let's take Gabriel era Genesis. In this kind of case you're portraying a character, you're telling a story. It's all tropes. But, the sheer philosophy behind hip-hop and rap is to do the opposite. The rapper doesn't use someone else's lyrics and the rapper doesn't pretend to be someone else, like they're playing a character unless it's super obviously stated!

Example:
1. An American rapper has a song about living in a ghetto and gun control.
2. A Polish rapper has a song about living in a ghetto and gun control.

Option 2 looks like someone's copying a style without choosing not to adopt the elements that sound out of place and out of character when you change the setting from the US to Poland.

Edited by Hrychu - May 31 2024 at 05:23

Hrychu wrote: Not a prog hot take but still a music hot take. White Polish artists adopting (or more like copying) African-American gangsta rap/trap music stylistics is pretty much blackface without the makeup, similar to Polish reggae except here, even more contrived and fake. :v I cringe so friggin hard whenever I see all those trap mannerisms copied and pasted by local artists from my homeland, who mindlessly shoehorn in AAVE phrases,slang terms (remember kids: shіt ≠ gówno!!!!!) and even speech stress and prosody, into the Polish language. It's a different country with different musical traditions. Get over it.

Not a prog hot take but still a music hot take.

White Polish artists adopting (or more like copying) African-American gangsta rap/trap music stylistics is pretty much blackface without the makeup, similar to Polish reggae except here, even more contrived and fake. :v I cringe so friggin hard whenever I see all those trap mannerisms copied and pasted by local artists from my homeland, who mindlessly shoehorn in AAVE phrases,slang terms (remember kids: shіt ≠ gówno!!!!!) and even speech stress and prosody, into the Polish language. It's a different country with different musical traditions. Get over it.

Frets N Worries wrote: Yes and Time and a Word are both better than The Yes Album in my book

RockHound wrote: They are very interesting albums, but IMHO, they are more uneven than TYA, especially Big Generator. To me, TYA through GFTO constitutes Yes' great run, and I am hard pressed to choose a favorite among them. I love them all. Since GFTO, the Yes albums I think are best are KeyStudio and The Ladder, with Magnification running a distant third.