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Poll Question: Nominate one track and vote for three
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back.  

Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me.  I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to.


If you mean the second video in my post, the band's name is Admirals Hard. Their album is also on Bandcamp.

Sorry, my bad.  I meant your 2nd selection "She Moves Through the Fair" which would have been your first video in your 2nd post...the one you posted above the Admirals Hard video.  Embarrassed


That's Simple Minds, "Belfast Child".
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back.  

Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me.  I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to.


If you mean the second video in my post, the band's name is Admirals Hard. Their album is also on Bandcamp.

Sorry, my bad.  I meant your 2nd selection "She Moves Through the Fair" which would have been your first video in your 2nd post...the one you posted above the Admirals Hard video.  Embarrassed


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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back.  

Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me.  I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to.


If you mean the second video in my post, the band's name is Admirals Hard. Their album is also on Bandcamp.
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Snicolette: First the beautiful voice of Connie Dover accompanied by some other layered vocals and synths for an orchestral quality. Brings me to the landscapes of Ireland... Very nice. Faun brings us to the Middle Ages, with everything that we can expect, except maybe for that beat that puts me of. A pity, because for the rest - singing, instrumentation and playing - it is quite good. Then a trip to Galicia with Milladoiro. A beautiful voice again accompanied by harp (yes!) and some other traditional instruments that could keep us in medieval territories, but the singing and playing are much more modern to my ears. This is my preferred one!

Thank you for your thoughts on these, suitkees (and your acceptance of my so-much-harp in my various entries).  I find that Milladoiro piece very haunting, it is one of my favourite songs.  Smile
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Thoughts on the latest entries:

Raff:  Fotheringay with Sandy Denny, “Banks of the Nile”  One of the best showcases for Sandy, who is one of my favourite female singers of all time, wonderful choice for those who may not know of her.  Known to me, so I can’t vote for it, BUT…..this is very haunting and as gorgeous as only Sandy Denny can decorate a song.  The instrumentation supports her vocals perfectly, as should be.  It is stellar, we are lucky to have what recordings we have of hers, for as you know, her life was tragically short.  For those of you who don’t know of her, she is well worth seeking out, with this collaboration, her solo works and also with Fairport Convention and very early Strawbs.  Simple Minds “Belfast Child”  What a beautiful rendition of this classic Celtic song.  I had not heard this, it is just so very moving, with Jim Kerr’s deep voice and the violin ornamentation and orchestral swell behind in the mix. Electric guitar joins as the song gains in intensity, and then the song slows and fades to a close.  Admirals Hard “Whip Jamboree/Let The Bulgine Run”  This is done is a sea shanty, with concertina played on keys, it looks like and multiple voices, pipes (also on keys, it appears) and a steady strummed guitar.   There is a hurdy-gurdy also in the visuals, it just comes in in small parts here and there and then near the end, there is a longer lead played upon it.  This is a great sing-along type song with a repeating chorus. 

Micky:  Nice to see you back, too!  Gordon Lightfoot “Black Day In July”  This one I know also, as you probably guessed, but I am a GL fan.  This has his superb voice with a sort of blend of folk and country instrumentation.  This one tells the tale of race riots in Detroit in 1967, a time I remember well, and sadly, am still seeing to this day.  A moving topical piece that could still be covered, especially with a few modern updates on the lyrics. 


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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Thanks to both Nickie and Kees for your very insightful and helpful comments.  
  You're very welcome, Mike.  I always enjoy what you bring to the ears.  Smile
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Enjoying this one. Some great selections. It's going to be tough to vote on. Nice variety. 

I don't listen to or have much folk music in my library, but not because I don't enjoy. I'm going to take advantage of the breadth offered by The Anders and go with music with folk elements here. So, let's take a trip around the world.

First up is James Holden and the Animal Spirits. Holden was a student at Oxford studying mathematics who turned to DJing and being a techno artist/producer. For his third album, he took an more organic sound incorporating elements of psyche, prog, and folk, among others. This is the appropriately titled "Spinning Dance".


Next, we go across the pond to the Bay Area for the Tin Hat Trio (now just Tin Hat since they expanded from being a trio). They are filed on PA under RIO/Avant-Prog and classified as Chamber Jazz by AllMusic. They play acoustic with elements of contemporary music, jazz, blues, folk, and whatever else they want. Founding member and violinist Carla Kihlstedt was also a founding member of the excellent (but different) Sleepytime Gorilla Music (also RIO/Avant-Prog on PA). Here, I'll offer a couple of tracks from the album Helium, one instrumental and the other with unmistakable guest vocals from Tom Waits.

"Width of the World"


"Helium Reprise"


Then, let's jet on over to Japan for Hanafugestu. I've posted a track by them before, many months ago, but as 'bonus' track. File this as Japanese Pop Folk. The trio consists of a shakuhachi (bamboo flute) player, koto player and singer/pianist. 

"Crimson"


Next stop is Italy with a track by Unfolk, the moniker for Venetian mandolin player/multi-instrumentalist Alessandro Monti. This track is from the concept album "Book of the Venetian Dead" about vinyl factory pollution in the 70's and 80's leading to cancer in Venice. He collaborates on this one with British singer/songwriter Kevin Hewick whose career goes back to the 80s and Factory Records. This track has a decidedly 80's feel with Hewick's vocals reminding me of some solo Peter Murphy. 

"Bedroom Discotheque"


Lastly, we head back to the Bay Area and then head on to Tuva. Wasn't planning on this one, but it turned up on my random shuffle as I was typing this. I have recommended the move "Genghis Blues" somewhere on PA before. It's a documentary about a blind blues musician Paul Pena, who self-teaches himself Tuvan throat singing. He then is invited to compete in a throat singing competition and the movie is about that trip and competition. Excellent movie. This is from the soundtrack. A bluesish number with throat singing. Paul is the deeper throat.

"Tuva Farewell"



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Thanks to both Nickie and Kees for your very insightful and helpful comments.  

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Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back.  

Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me.  I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to.

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Another couple of suggestions - this time from bands that are not on PA (Fotheringay are in Prog-Related). The first one is probably rather well-known, as it was recorded by one of the top bands of the Eighties, and was quite successful when it was released as a single in 1989. The folk connection here is in the music, which comes from the traditional Irish ballad "She Moves Through the Fair" (which was recorded by a whole lot of people):



The second one is way more upbeat than my previous suggestions. The band in question is yet another Cardiacs offshoot, featuring the ubiquitous Kavus Torabi, and the song comes from their album of sea shanties by the very literary title of Upon a Painted Ocean:




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folk music??  man.. talk about a genre even more varied and vast than prog itself... and that is only talking about American folk music which obviously is the wellspring of so much of 20th century popular music.

since Raff piped in I'll do the same.. thought about posting some great prewar 'folk' but that isn't what most think of as folk.. so I'll go more traditional.. some dude/dudess with a geetar singing protest social consious sh*t haha

and with a voice like his.. hard to top him...  


that said.. he is still and will be forever known as the author of the greatest barfly song ever written.. Micky tested.. Micky approved.
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My short take on all suggestions (so far):

Shadowyzard: Two very Medieval tinged selections... A Past and Future Secret by Blind Guardian has also a kind of grotesque theatrical and orchestral aspect to it, especially when that raspy metal-voice comes in. Obscurus Orbis are in a hurry but remain in the Middle Ages with their traditional instruments. At the same time they give the track a definite modern take. Both are nice but not really surprising, actually. I prefer Kost Ar C'hoat from these two.

Logan: Mark Fry brings us The Witch who puts a psychedelic spell over the folk music. Sitar dominated with some acoustic guitar and flute sparsly interwoven and a trance inducing percussion characterize this song with its eery vocals. Typical early 70s and very atmospheric - quite nice!

Cristi: Nice to put up three Romanian artists/bands, and they're all three quite good to my ears. Valeriu Sterian combines acoustic and electric guitars and a modest percussion to deliver his song. It gives it almost a pop-rock quality in folk-disguise. Phoenix start off very electric (you would expect a rock song...) before the acoustic guitar puts in its melody. Electric guitar and bass keep on a very minimalist rythm until it becomes more rock indeed just to fade out... Wonderful, but clearly a part of a greater whole. Nicu Alifantis must have been popular in his country: beautiful and emotional voice and great songwriting, here packed in that typical late 70s synthy-orchestral arrangements. Makes it a bit dated, maybe, but I like it very much. For me it is between him and Phoenix...

jamesbaldwin: Adriano Celentano brings us a typical 60s song, which does not much to me. Then three great artists that need no introduction but are always great to hear... I never really plunged into the music of Stormy Six. This is a nice selection. The vocals were always their weak part, to my ears, but their music always intriguing. It has some chamber folk quality (and some Nino Rota influences?) that sometimes leans more to avant, indeed. From these three it is especially Il barbiere that stands out for me: fascinating and captivating (and the singing is OK, I'll get used to it...)

TCat: The Low Anthem will get the prize for the best animated clip: beautiful stop-motion! The song is a very delicate one: guitar-voice, some backing vocals and sounds and a harmonica to complete this saddening song. Beautiful. Amzing Blondel bring us a 70s orchestral and pastoral song (flute, vocals, guitar, orchestra...). It sounds nice, but I'm waiting for something spectacular to happen, which doesn't come... Fovea Hex surprise me much more with this minimalist eery piece of music. Heavily leaning on the vocals and some instrumental backing (cello, electronics?) before the percussion sets in modestly making us listen in devotion... Fleet Foxes start off very up-tempo, slow down and settle us in a very pleasant song, recognizably American folk, great melodies and playing. Difficult to make a choice from these, but I think I'm most surprised by Fovea Hex.

Snicolette: First the beautiful voice of Connie Dover accompanied by some other layered vocals and synths for an orchestral quality. Brings me to the landscapes of Ireland... Very nice. Faun brings us to the Middle Ages, with everything that we can expect, except maybe for that beat that puts me of. A pity, because for the rest - singing, instrumentation and playing - it is quite good. Then a trip to Galicia with Milladoiro. A beautiful voice again accompanied by harp (yes!) and some other traditional instruments that could keep us in medieval territories, but the singing and playing are much more modern to my ears. This is my preferred one!

Lewian: Opa Cupa bring us almost a kind of brass balkan rock, with some jazz outings and an awful disco-dance-beat. Great playing, wonderful singing, and if that beat could have been different it would convince me... Solarference is more to my liking, very intriguing. And great to watch them putting this "laptop folk" together. Great vocal harmonies/canon and a very modern take on folk - definetely a contender. Now, Heilung... Yes, what is this? Something very tribal and ritualistic. After seven minutes I want them to explode, but no... A cry, yes, but just to set in the eery voice and sacrify us to whatever nature-god it may be. Intriguing, but not something I would return to...

The Anders: Väsen are very surprising with what they deliver with just three string instruments. Great playing and that nyckelharpa is an intriguing instrument... Nice to see them play together - they're clearly very accomplished musicians (and I love the rabbit!). A very good surprise this!

dr wu23: Esper's take on Rosemary Lane is quite nice, modest but at the same time very rich in its instrumentation accompanying the delicate voice. Enchanting in a way. After this Shirley Collins & The Albion Band sound almost a bit conventional. And I'm not really fan of her singing. I prefer Dando Shaft and this pastoral and typical British folk; they create an interesting atmosphere in this song with all its diversity.

Tancos: Vasmalom offer an intriguing take on traditional music that sounds quite modern on this track. Makes me think a bit of Flairck, with the singing added... A bit jazzy by moments, playful and quite captivating. Floating Cloud indeed sounds as if they have imported Irish folk into Japan. It's sounds nice but there is not much evolution in this track, to my ears. I definetely prefer Vasmalom.

Raff: I heard of Fotheringay, but never heard much of their music. This one starts off in delicacy with the singing and acoustic guitar conveying a sense of melancholy, before it slowly evolves with a richer instrumentation without loosing that fragile quality of the song. Just beautiful!

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Well, I realized that I had already suggested a bunch of folk or folk-inspired songs for the previous editions of this poll - so I had to think of something different. Not sure how well known this song might be, but it is so incredibly beautiful that I felt the need to include it as my first suggestion:

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Here is my first take so far on Page Two:  Also, yes, thank you to George for deciding to collect all of the tracks!

suitkees:  Piers Faccini “Broken Mirror”  Very dreamy sound to this, in the vein of Nick Drake.  Very subdued production with tinkly sounds, bits of strings and a very ghostly vocals, with a female voice harmonizing near the end.  Very lovely piece.  Tungg “Woodcat”  Another very quiet piece with finger-picked acoustic guitar, this one is doubling the vocals as the singer relates a stream-of-consciousness reminiscence of a time past with a girl…but this one begs for an enchantment to bring them back together, as other creatures, and a girl voice does indeed join in near the end with him…did the enchantment work?  Perhaps.  Followed by another one from Tunng, “Death is the New Sex”  This one starts with a different style of picked electric guitar, a pounding pulse and embellishments from keys.  Much darker than the previous, lyrically, as one could guess from the title.  The same female vocalist supports his vocal, in a kind of ISB whispery voice.  A cautionary tale, it would seem to me, it has an almost ironic upbeat feel to the keyboards, with whangs added as the song comes to an end, echoing the “windows rattle,” line in the lyrics.  Out of competition, Flairck “Tango”  Live performance with double necked acoustic guitar, violin, cello Such a beautiful melody begins this piece, starring the violinist.  The music increases in intensity, then pan pipes are added and picks up the pace a bit, with the violin now being plucked for a moment, then gradually becomes fiery in earnest with congas and the violin once again starring.  Drops back to the pan flutes as the guitar and cello keep the rhythm going.     

dr Wu23:  Was really looking forward to what you’d bring, since I knew you’d know some good ones for this.  Espers I’ve only heard once before, so taking it as new to my ears, also have heard The Albion Band, but not enough and not this one, so you’re in to the running this time!   Espers “Rosemary Lane”  I’m familiar with the tune from Bert Jansch’s version.  A really beautiful, wistful version of this folk song, one of the “cautionary tales,” type.   Lovely arrangement with strings and a delicate female vocal, as well as guitars.  Shirley Collins & The Albion Band “Murder of Maria Marten”  Another wonderful, rustic folk cautionary tale type song with acoustic and electric guitars, drums, fiddle and hurdy-gurdy…Shirley Collins has a great “village,” voice, as I call it).  Richard Thompson plays electric guitar here (I had to look and see if it was him, sure sounded like him  😊  ).  This one has several sections, similar to “Jack Orion,” which I posted just for fun.  Dando Shaft “In The Country”  This begins with flutes, guitar and mild percussion, also is a pastoral-feeling piece (fitting with the title).  Lilting flute solo and fluttering guitars with a sort of free-form set of lyrics, sung by a male vocalist. This one is also a fine example of the British folk scene of the 1970’s and one I’d never heard. 

Tancos:  Vasmalom "Hejtok Lányok."  Couldn’t find a translation for the lyrics, but this begins with flutes and a twangy sort of stringed instrument.  Female vocalist sings a lilting tune, not sure what the stringed instrument is, a mandolin or mandola of some sort, or if you know, I am always interested to know new instruments.    This piece has a very “village,” sound to me, something I think of as being sung in a village as women are doing their chores etc.   Floating Cloud “  月見酒 (Tsukimi Sake)."  Love the opening notes of the violin-ish instrument, which I would say is certainly very folky to my ear.  Harp joins in, this is so delicate and just perfect ear candy to me.  The music goes back and forth between the harp and the violin.  Haunting and melancholy, what a lovely thing it is.    


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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Recently I've been listening to a lot of folk (prog or otherwise), so I'd like to contribute to this poll after a long absence. If I may, I'll think about a submission during the weekend - it shouldn't take too long!

Nickie, great choiceHeart! "Jack Orion" is a masterpiece from one of my favourite bands. On a related note, I've recently discovered a great site about English folk, which includes very thorough info on all the traditional songs (something I've always been interested in), as well as complete discographies of classic and modern artists. Here it is: https://www.mainlynorfolk.info/folk/
  This is very exciting to me, Raff!  Will love this resource.  I just felt this had to be here, so I'm glad you agree.  And welcome back, looking forward to hearing your selections.Smile
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Recently I've been listening to a lot of folk (prog or otherwise), so I'd like to contribute to this poll after a long absence. If I may, I'll think about a submission during the weekend - it shouldn't take too long!

Nickie, great choiceHeart! "Jack Orion" is a masterpiece from one of my favourite bands. On a related note, I've recently discovered a great site about English folk, which includes very thorough info on all the traditional songs (something I've always been interested in), as well as complete discographies of classic and modern artists. Here it is: https://www.mainlynorfolk.info/folk/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2021 at 16:20
Also wonderful prog folk would not be represented enough without this, which will be out of competition.   I waited to see if someone was going to bring them in, in case anyone here is not familiar.

Pentangle and all of their solo/other groupings projects were one of my major introductions to folk music being presented in a different way (as well as The US Kaleidoscope).  This is a long one, but you get to kind of hear everyone in it and it's a typical folk song of it's type.  "Jack Orion," by The Pentangle.  
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This was an oddly difficult category for me. While I have an immense amount of folk music in my library, nearly every tune I considered for nomination is not available on YouTube. (Many are not available, period, now that CD Baby has closed its online shop.) I did find a few. Here are two.

From Hungary, Vasmalom, "Hejtok Lányok." (Assume this is my nomination unless I state otherwise later.)



And now to test the definition of "folk" music, here's Floating Cloud with a tune from a Japanese video game transformed into something like an Irish air, albeit with an erhu instead of a fiddle, "月見酒 (Tsukimi Sake)." Is this folk, or close enough?


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^^ Thanks Lewian for confirming and thanks George for having already updated the playlist (and for the playlist itself, of course) - faster than lightning! Thumbs Up

I had a first listen to most of the music suggested here and it was a great listen, indeed. Will comment on them tomorrow, giving myself a second listen to all these pearls...

In the mean time, and out of competition, especially for those who still don't know Flairck - one of those great Dutch bands that exported quite well, with The Nits and Golden Earring, of course; and Kayak to a lesser extent. To my surprise they are listed on PA... I saw them a couple of times live and that is where they really shine. So, here a little sample live from German television - don't miss out on their scenic prowess at the end of the clip!

Flairck - Tango:







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Many great folk bands and songs...several of my favorites...








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