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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

7th House is a good one and I have all of the IQ except for the low rated ones. But even those have a few good tracks. I still believe that Dark Matter and Frequency are the best things they have done.
Road and Resistance are very good but imho the strong melody lines that ran through Dark and Frequency are missing and replaced with a darker heavier prog metal strain at times (not saying they are prog metal btw).
To me they are rewriting the earlier lp's and making them a bit heavier but not necessarily better. 
But....I came to IQ late....I discovered them with 7th House, Dark ,and Frequency...so that certainly could have biased my ears.

The prog metal comment is interesting. That first surfaced on Ever with the track Further Away and then they expanded more on it with The Road Of Bones imo.
Frequency is a great album and maybe I would only place Ever and The Wake above it. Certainly my favourite 'modern' IQ album although Resistance is well up there. I actually feel that Dark Matter is a bit tired and lacking any new ideas so that come well down my personal list.
Not to be ignored but unfortunately hard to get a copy of nowadays , IQ's Christmas Album 'Tales From A Dark Christmas' is an absolute gem. 

I really can't hear anything in IQ that sounds anything like metal, apart from the odd moment in songs such as The Road Of Bones and Frequency.

I agree with you somewhat on Dark Matter.  The middle 3 songs are some of the weakest in their catalogue to my ears.  But the opener and closer are both stunning!

I'd love to get hold of that Christmas albumCry

It's a bit tenuous but I do think that IQ embraced a small element of metal in their music but not being a musician I can't explain it , it just feels like it at times. Come to think of it it was there on 'Through the Corridors' with Mike Holmes brilliant fret work although that was perhaps a bit more obvious! 
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4 stars 2002: The Archive Collection: IQ20 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLWnRGn2Ierd_7mVVllA8Na

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

7th House is a good one and I have all of the IQ except for the low rated ones. But even those have a few good tracks. I still believe that Dark Matter and Frequency are the best things they have done.
Road and Resistance are very good but imho the strong melody lines that ran through Dark and Frequency are missing and replaced with a darker heavier prog metal strain at times (not saying they are prog metal btw).
To me they are rewriting the earlier lp's and making them a bit heavier but not necessarily better. 
But....I came to IQ late....I discovered them with 7th House, Dark ,and Frequency...so that certainly could have biased my ears.

The prog metal comment is interesting. That first surfaced on Ever with the track Further Away and then they expanded more on it with The Road Of Bones imo.
Frequency is a great album and maybe I would only place Ever and The Wake above it. Certainly my favourite 'modern' IQ album although Resistance is well up there. I actually feel that Dark Matter is a bit tired and lacking any new ideas so that come well down my personal list.
Not to be ignored but unfortunately hard to get a copy of nowadays , IQ's Christmas Album 'Tales From A Dark Christmas' is an absolute gem. 

I really can't hear anything in IQ that sounds anything like metal, apart from the odd moment in songs such as The Road Of Bones and Frequency.

I agree with you somewhat on Dark Matter.  The middle 3 songs are some of the weakest in their catalogue to my ears.  But the opener and closer are both stunning!

I'd love to get hold of that Christmas albumCry
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

7th House is a good one and I have all of the IQ except for the low rated ones. But even those have a few good tracks. I still believe that Dark Matter and Frequency are the best things they have done.
Road and Resistance are very good but imho the strong melody lines that ran through Dark and Frequency are missing and replaced with a darker heavier prog metal strain at times (not saying they are prog metal btw).
To me they are rewriting the earlier lp's and making them a bit heavier but not necessarily better. 
But....I came to IQ late....I discovered them with 7th House, Dark ,and Frequency...so that certainly could have biased my ears.

The prog metal comment is interesting. That first surfaced on Ever with the track Further Away and then they expanded more on it with The Road Of Bones imo.
Frequency is a great album and maybe I would only place Ever and The Wake above it. Certainly my favourite 'modern' IQ album although Resistance is well up there. I actually feel that Dark Matter is a bit tired and lacking any new ideas so that come well down my personal list.
Not to be ignored but unfortunately hard to get a copy of nowadays , IQ's Christmas Album 'Tales From A Dark Christmas' is an absolute gem. 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

7th House is a good one and I have all of the IQ except for the low rated ones. But even those have a few good tracks. I still believe that Dark Matter and Frequency are the best things they have done.
Road and Resistance are very good but imho the strong melody lines that ran through Dark and Frequency are missing and replaced with a darker heavier prog metal strain at times (not saying they are prog metal btw).
To me they are rewriting the earlier lp's and making them a bit heavier but not necessarily better. 
But....I came to IQ late....I discovered them with 7th House, Dark ,and Frequency...so that certainly could have biased my ears.
I came to IQ late too, having never heard an IQ album before last month, and their albums are sounding even better after giving them all a second listen this month. Thumbs Up
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7th House is a good one and I have all of the IQ except for the low rated ones. But even those have a few good tracks. I still believe that Dark Matter and Frequency are the best things they have done.
Road and Resistance are very good but imho the strong melody lines that ran through Dark and Frequency are missing and replaced with a darker heavier prog metal strain at times (not saying they are prog metal btw).
To me they are rewriting the earlier lp's and making them a bit heavier but not necessarily better. 
But....I came to IQ late....I discovered them with 7th House, Dark ,and Frequency...so that certainly could have biased my ears.
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5 stars 2000: The Seventh House - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLUWnyys630jZzmjnExS-Eg

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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I've only heard the Road of Bones which is one of my all time favorites, Resistance which is one of my kinda.... "meh" disappointment records, and Dark Matter which i'm just kinda lukewarm on. What's a good next step? I'm open to anything

Some rave about Bones and Resistance but to me they are just rewriting earlier songs and making it 'darker'...good lp's but.... My favorites are Dark Matter and Frequency....try this and crank the volume....interesting lyrics also..


And imho this is the best song they have ever written....it has melody, great lyrics, power, production, and a great 2 minute guitar lead starting at 10:15 that for me is almost as good as anything Gilmour or Hackett did in their bands.



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People shouldn't forget Seven Stories Into '98, a very interesting revisit of their first cassette album. Includes one of their all time best songs: It All Stops Here😎
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not a massive fan of IQ or neo prog, I guess, but I do have some time and some respect for this band. I like '...lush attic' and 'The Wake' and tend to psychologically group them with Marillion's debut. They have atmosphere and darkness, and a bit of a rough edge. I find some of their later releases with Nicholl's (Post Nomzamo era) to be a little too slick and polished. Te Nomzamo era, does little for me. Arty pop/rock that fails to stir the imagination. Apart from the debut and follow up, favourite albums would probably be Ever and Dark Matter. I completely lost interest after Martin Offord left, although I will check out Road of Bones after reading the rave reviews.

I've seen them live a few times. Certainly a good live band.



Think I might have been at one of those gigs as well and Andy Edwards was in the band?

I find Are You Sitting Comfortably a very enjoyable album, some nice wry cynicism in the lyrics even if much of it is bit 'plastic' sounding admittedly.


 



Yeah, we went with Simon Godfrey. Can't remember the venue, although I remember Hard-Fi were playing next door!

I've seen them twice and Andy Edwards was on drums both times. Very good drummer, better than Paul Cook IMO.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not a massive fan of IQ or neo prog, I guess, but I do have some time and some respect for this band. I like '...lush attic' and 'The Wake' and tend to psychologically group them with Marillion's debut. They have atmosphere and darkness, and a bit of a rough edge. I find some of their later releases with Nicholl's (Post Nomzamo era) to be a little too slick and polished. Te Nomzamo era, does little for me. Arty pop/rock that fails to stir the imagination. Apart from the debut and follow up, favourite albums would probably be Ever and Dark Matter. I completely lost interest after Martin Offord left, although I will check out Road of Bones after reading the rave reviews.

I've seen them live a few times. Certainly a good live band.


Think I might have been at one of those gigs as well and Andy Edwards was in the band?

I find Are You Sitting Comfortably a very enjoyable album, some nice wry cynicism in the lyrics even if much of it is bit 'plastic' sounding admittedly.


 

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