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Well done, suitkees!  Harder to describe abstract music in words, you definitely hit on the feelings of these pieces.
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And mine:

Lewian: Radian is a band I have heard of but I never really explored their music. Nice to get a better glimpse here. We're indeed in more experimental and electronic territory. I very much like the sonics of Shift, underscored by the percussion and bass sounds - a kind of industrial electronics. tg11 makes me think of some of the more radical tape music and musique concrète experiments of the 50s, 60s. This one seems to play with electronic and sonic interference, with a kind of vinyl click. Intriguingly fascinating. With Scary Objects we're back into more industrial electronics again and we recognize some "normal" instruments here pinning down the rhythms and melodies. Subcolors brings a minimalist jazzy, bluesy touch to their musical approach (they could be friends with Kat Onomo on this one) tending towards post-rock in the last third of the track, very captivating. Overall quite fascinating and of these I think I prefer their Scary Objects, which seems their most typical maybe, but the four tracks all have their distinct qualities. Now I definitely have to explore them more.


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And here is my take on Lewian's selection(s):  

Lewian:  Radian “Here’s Shift” Begins with some shimmery percussive sounds, with regular drums in background.  A building of tension.  Some bass kicks in and hints of keys, shimmering continues.  A few electronic beeps and bips.  Tension continues to build with sustained notes on guitar?  Or?  Drips and drops of high notes, come in, along with the continued sustain, then more percussion.  Some string-type washes come in and the piece begins to chill out as it is drawing near the end, finalizing in a fadeout. “tg11”  Starts with some static noise and some way off sounds, a couple of drum hits.  Waves of static, shifting.  Static gets stronger, and weaves in and out, with the drum sounds continuing and a bit of feedback.  This actually feels very spooky and enigmatic to me.  Occasional clinks, then abruptly ends.  “Scary Objects”  Big buzz and clanks at the start this time.  Some boomy buzzes kick in with the clanks.  Then bleeps do a fly-by.  Jumpy percussion with slidy sounds and now some keyboard and string clangs.  Feedback ensues, while bleeps continue.  Some boingggs and then some feed-backy guitar again while percussion fades out and some low hums begin to enter the scene.  Guitar again, some strumming with feedback, and clacky bits, all the while percussion keeps on percussing and some sonar sounds are heard, along with a few more boingggs, and a repeated note, then ends.  Definitely scary stuff.  “Subcolours”  For this one, I am going to eschew my usual trying to describe what happens in the piece.  I enjoyed seeing them play, added an extra element to the piece for me.  And I would say this wandered into more psychedelic territory, much of psych was actually very slow-moving, despite the flash of some of the most popular artists.  Definitely profoundly intriguing all around.



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This will be the last Radian entry, as it lands me between 20 and 25 minutes. The Chimeric album has three mini-epics of 8 minutes plus. This length suits them well, it allows for some quite postrocky development as in Subcolors (actually I realise that this one, the most conventional of the three mini-epics, is probably more accessible than the one I posted from On Dark Silent Off, but so be it). Pretty relaxed this one. Oh, and I can give you a live video of this one.
As I have now closed my nomination process, I've got to say that this was really difficult, as consistency is one of Radian's great assets. I tend to love all tracks on all albums and wouldn't find a natural favourite except if I have to. I have posted those I posted for a reason, but if somebody told me, everything posted up to now doesn't count and we have to find some other 20-25 minutes, these wouldn't hardly lose any quality compared to what's up now.


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The most recent Radian album, On Dark Silent Off of 2016, is probably the most accessible one, if only by Radian standards. There are some song-like structures and some music-like sounds Wink, in two or so tracks there's even a guitar, quite something, isn't it? They still sound like Radian though.I think that together with 2004's Juxtaposition it is their best album. They even have a music video on youtube for this one. Here's Scary Objects.

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


  Accordion it is, then, maybe I was thinking of another instrument that you'd mentioned another time.  Smile[/QUOTE]

Ah, yes, bandoneon, it's the Argentine accordion, the most important instrument to play and dance tango.

Instead, when you have talked about horn-like instruments, in Litania 

there are

- "GHIRONDA", translated is hurdy-gurdy, 
- "CIARAMELLA" a particular kind of pipe, translated is shawn (I hope the translation is correct!)


[/QUOTE]  Ah, yes, it was the bandoneon!  Thank you, at least I was closely on track.  Haven't totally lost it yet.LOL
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Thanks to you, Nickie!

Here's to you the credits:


Giovanni Lindo Ferretti: vocals
Ambrogio Sparagna: accordion.

Vox Clara Quartet:
Anna Rita Colaianni: soprano
Arianna Rumiz: contralto
Vittorio D'Amico: tenore
Pietro Albano: baritono

plus: Lorenzo Esposito Fornasari: vocals

Clara Graziano: accordion, vocals, tambourine, castanets
Erasmo Treglia: hurdy-gurdy, shawn, violin, ocarina, bark flute, baroque oboe.

  
  Accordion it is, then, maybe I was thinking of another instrument that you'd mentioned another time.  Smile

Ah, yes, bandoneon, it's the Argentine accordion, the most important instrument to play and dance tango.

Instead, when you have talked about horn-like instruments, in Litania 

there are

- "GHIRONDA", translated is hurdy-gurdy, 
- "CIARAMELLA" a particular kind of pipe, translated is shawn (I hope the translation is correct!)




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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Nickie:  Azam Ali - The music is very relaxing, somewhat meandering, but in a good way, especially since much of it is done with her amazing voice.  It flows like a slow river, taking her time to allow the listener's soul to fall into the music.  I love the fact that she takes her own native styles and mixes them with Celtic and Spanish styles which makes her very unique.  The tracks that stood out the most for me were the ones from "Elysium for the Brave".  They did tend to have a little more substance to them and felt like more completely realized songs, though I did like the strong Spanish influence of the "Portals of Grace" tracks.  Meanwhile, the live track at the end has a more psychedelic feel to it.  Excellent choice!
  Thank you, again, glad you enjoyed her, she really does mix things up, something I like to hear in music from time to time.  
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Thanks to you, Nickie!

Here's to you the credits:


Giovanni Lindo Ferretti: vocals
Ambrogio Sparagna: accordion.

Vox Clara Quartet:
Anna Rita Colaianni: soprano
Arianna Rumiz: contralto
Vittorio D'Amico: tenore
Pietro Albano: baritono

plus: Lorenzo Esposito Fornasari: vocals

Clara Graziano: accordion, vocals, tambourine, castanets
Erasmo Treglia: hurdy-gurdy, shawn, violin, ocarina, bark flute, baroque oboe.

  
  Accordion it is, then, maybe I was thinking of another instrument that you'd mentioned another time.  Smile
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Here is my take on Lorenzo's selection(s), still awaiting more from Lewian....

Lorenzo:  No turned up nose here!  Giovanni Lindo Ferretti & Ambrogio Sparagna L'orologio della passione” Concertina-like instrument opens, with the vocalist singing, appropriately, passionately.  Sorry, I know you told me before what the concertina-type instrument is, but I can’t recall the name.  This reminds me also of a sea or village sort of song, I really love whatever those horn-like instruments are.  Beautiful.  Song shifts into a sort of hornpipe, I would call it (although it may not be the technical term), fast-paced and jolly feeling.  “Sonno sonno”  Mournful pipe opens with a gorgeous female vocal, full in sound, with a bit of echo.  Love the sound of this, not sure where it was recorded, but this song sounds very like in a church, at least with the effects (or maybe not). Note:  Now I read the ending!  It was in a church.  😊 Sounds like an early music piece to me, esp with the ending.  “Madre” Again, the lord-I-wish-I-could-recall-the-instrument-name-instrument.  Deep male voice now, with strings coming in.  Obviously a song to the singer’s mother, emotional.  Really pretty interplay with the instrumentation.  Now a chorus of vocals, female and male chime in.  “Santo”   A fast romp, and very short, I was expecting something different from the title…very joyful, with all of the singers again.  “Madre Maria, il lament”  Here is another sea-faring sort of sound, to start.  I was again expecting perhaps a more mournful tune from the name, but I think the lament part will show in the lyrics.  Is he perhaps trying to bargain with her, in remorse for misdeeds of some sort?  “Intimisto”  Here is the deep-voiced male singer again, with the chorus joining in, softly.  Feels like a prayer to me.  Pretty playing on the concertina-like instrument, in a brief solo.  When the chorus rejoins, it is full and swelling.  The male vocalist solos for a bit, joined again by the chorus, then this back-and-forth repeats several times, to a very emotional ending by the male vocalist.  Very moving. 


Thanks to you, Nickie!

Here's to you the credits:


Giovanni Lindo Ferretti: vocals
Ambrogio Sparagna: accordion.

Vox Clara Quartet:
Anna Rita Colaianni: soprano
Arianna Rumiz: contralto
Vittorio D'Amico: tenore
Pietro Albano: baritono

plus: Lorenzo Esposito Fornasari: vocals

Clara Graziano: accordion, vocals, tambourine, castanets
Erasmo Treglia: hurdy-gurdy, shawn, violin, ocarina, bark flute, baroque oboe.




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Greg : Pram - Very interesting and nice with a melancholic sound.  Love the dissonance in the trumpet, which is present a lot of the time.  The first track, "Radio Freak in a Storm" is probably the most different from the others with the almost Bjork-like feel and the use of strings.  The others that stood out was the more upbeat and child-like sound of "Mother of Pearl" and the steady crawl of "Penny Arcade".  Nice music for a rainy day.

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jamesbaldwin: Again in completely different territory. I won't "turn up my nose". This is music I wouldn't delve into normally, but I am sure I would be completely captivated if I assisted to it live. The production here renders quite good the acoustics of the recording space, the church. Especially the vocals come out very well, but it sounds very good overall (I listen to it through my hifi where the tube amplifier does much justice to this recording, I think). Some tracks have much of a troubadour feel to it but the added chorals on most of the tracks make something else out of it. The first track and Madre Maria are not the most convincing to me, but with Sonno sonno (great female voice!), Intimisto and especially Madre it becomes very special. The human beat box on Santo adds something very modern to this sound. His deep voice on some of the tracks is beautiful. Sonne sonne, Madre and Intimisto are the stand-out tracks for me.


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Nickie:  Azam Ali - The music is very relaxing, somewhat meandering, but in a good way, especially since much of it is done with her amazing voice.  It flows like a slow river, taking her time to allow the listener's soul to fall into the music.  I love the fact that she takes her own native styles and mixes them with Celtic and Spanish styles which makes her very unique.  The tracks that stood out the most for me were the ones from "Elysium for the Brave".  They did tend to have a little more substance to them and felt like more completely realized songs, though I did like the strong Spanish influence of the "Portals of Grace" tracks.  Meanwhile, the live track at the end has a more psychedelic feel to it.  Excellent choice!

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo: ...Sorry, I know you told me before what the concertina-type instrument is, but I can’t recall the name... 

Sounds like an accordeon to me, but there are different types of it so Lorenzo may have more precisions...


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Here is my take on Lorenzo's selection(s), still awaiting more from Lewian....

Lorenzo:  No turned up nose here!  Giovanni Lindo Ferretti & Ambrogio Sparagna L'orologio della passione” Concertina-like instrument opens, with the vocalist singing, appropriately, passionately.  Sorry, I know you told me before what the concertina-type instrument is, but I can’t recall the name.  This reminds me also of a sea or village sort of song, I really love whatever those horn-like instruments are.  Beautiful.  Song shifts into a sort of hornpipe, I would call it (although it may not be the technical term), fast-paced and jolly feeling.  “Sonno sonno”  Mournful pipe opens with a gorgeous female vocal, full in sound, with a bit of echo.  Love the sound of this, not sure where it was recorded, but this song sounds very like in a church, at least with the effects (or maybe not). Note:  Now I read the ending!  It was in a church.  😊 Sounds like an early music piece to me, esp with the ending.  “Madre” Again, the lord-I-wish-I-could-recall-the-instrument-name-instrument.  Deep male voice now, with strings coming in.  Obviously a song to the singer’s mother, emotional.  Really pretty interplay with the instrumentation.  Now a chorus of vocals, female and male chime in.  “Santo”   A fast romp, and very short, I was expecting something different from the title…very joyful, with all of the singers again.  “Madre Maria, il lament”  Here is another sea-faring sort of sound, to start.  I was again expecting perhaps a more mournful tune from the name, but I think the lament part will show in the lyrics.  Is he perhaps trying to bargain with her, in remorse for misdeeds of some sort?  “Intimisto”  Here is the deep-voiced male singer again, with the chorus joining in, softly.  Feels like a prayer to me.  Pretty playing on the concertina-like instrument, in a brief solo.  When the chorus rejoins, it is full and swelling.  The male vocalist solos for a bit, joined again by the chorus, then this back-and-forth repeats several times, to a very emotional ending by the male vocalist.  Very moving. 

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Snicolette: What? Nickie goes electronic? That's what I asked myself when the first track of Azam Ali started playing. Never heard of her either and you're taking us on an interesting trip into Persian electro and traditional folk (making me think a bit of some of Clannad, but than the Middle-Eastern version of them)... I like their particular mix of traditional instruments and electronics with the percussion. Each song is a very pleasant listen but I think a whole album would be a bit too ambient for me. Her Ode to Melancholy though is sheer beauty! 

I think the first thing I heard from her was "Portals of Grace," which are all medieval pieces, so I then sought out everything she did and own most of it.  That and "Elysium for the Brave," are my two favourites, but I find something to like with every release.  And really enjoy the live videos, I'm hoping she will come back to Portland, where I missed seeing her a couple of years ago.  She and another favourite, Mary Fahl, were playing the same night, both at small venues and I chose to go to Mary Fahl, as she's based in New York and doesn't make it out west often, indeed had never played in Portland at all, as a solo artist.  Still wish I could have gone to both!  I am glad you enjoyed her.  Smile
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I envy how all of  you post so easily. 

I can't make up my mind what artist to present. 
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Mathman: Shawn Smith is another artist I discover here. Nice "album side", starting with a piano-voice dominated track and ending with piano-voice again. Two great songs! The funk of 20th Century doesn't make me think that much of Prince but more of other 80s funk acts. I very much like the minimalist bass/drum/guitar groove on this one and I prefer this one over the much more Prince-like Battle Flag. Suffering is maybe a bit too conventional as song but he delivers it very well. Wrapped in My Memory and 20th Century are my preferred songs here.


jamesbaldwin: Again in completely different territory. I won't "turn up my nose". This is music I wouldn't delve into normally, but I am sure I would be completely captivated if I assisted to it live. The production here renders quite good the acoustics of the recording space, the church. Especially the vocals come out very well, but it sounds very good overall (I listen to it through my hifi where the tube amplifier does much justice to this recording, I think). Some tracks have much of a troubadour feel to it but the added chorals on most of the tracks make something else out of it. The first track and Madre Maria are not the most convincing to me, but with Sonno sonno (great female voice!), Intimisto and especially Madre it becomes very special. The human beat box on Santo adds something very modern to this sound. His deep voice on some of the tracks is beautiful. Sonne sonne, Madre and Intimisto are the stand-out tracks for me.

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suitkees:  Kat Onoma  “From Pompei”  Dark and brooding male vocalist, with minimal electric guitar at first (a bit reminiscent of the Dream Syndicate, or Velvet Underground to me).  Stark, simple drumming kicks in and then the song fades. A ballad of good-bye. “Intro” I like a sense of humour in a band.  Good for them to have one with their name.  “Riverrun”  This one has kind of a country feel to it (well, with Billy the Kid as the album title, makes sense).  Definitely captures the spirit of galloping alongside a river in the desert, with the pace and the lyrics.  Nice, raw alt/country guitar leads here, too. There are some interesting little quirks to the song, little punctuation points, sonically.  “Que sera votre vie?” Begins with drums beating, then a (mostly) spoken reading of the lyrics come in.  Searing lead kicks in, this has more of a hard-psych feel to me, they also had some string sounds in this (which I really like, as it adds depth here) and more odd sounds punctuating the piece.  Is he speaking to himself, or someone else?  Having an existential crisis, perhaps, or just examining himself or another.  “Artificial Life”  Begins again with the spare electric guitar and drums that are a signature sound of this band.  I like that they have a sound you can identify as them.  Singer again has more of a speaking rather than singing tone, but this is his style.  This one is more driving than the last, I like what they did with the horn solo in about the middle, added a nice dimension (kind of like what happened for my ear with the strings on the previous piece).  “Old Trouble”  Opening with rhythmic percussion and a 1-2-3 count repeated a few times.  Some swirly sounds, this has a kind of old blues sensibility to it, in a way, in the repeated “coming old trouble, coming,” phrase.  Definitely emphasizes this when they add in sort of a gospel chorus.  Again they’ve thrown in a little curve to their basis by the chorus addition.

Thanks for this assessment - it covers quite well what I tried to do with my "album side". The influences of American music (Americana, country, blues, rock...) are quite clear in Kat Onoma's music, and I like the sometimes more experimental take they bring on to it. Driving force of the band was Rodolphe Burger, the singer and guitarist who is largely responsible for that very recognizable sound and who is having quite a prolific career with his solo outings and collaborative projects since Kat Onoma disbanded. And I think you won't be surprised to learn that he issued an album with Velvet Underground covers (you can listen to it here), a band he admires.

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Discovering some new bands and artists again... As I usually like to listen to albums in their entirety, this poll gets us more into the bands/artists each of us brings up here... Again, great idea, Mike! My first take on things:

TCat: Never heard of My Morning Jacket. Well, I guess, because in a way their first songs have something very familiar sounding over it it is very accessible with a kind of typical 90s (pop-)rock sound, but with their own original and melodic brand on it: very American, some country flavor, but tightly grounded in melodic rock. Even their odd take on Prince is is quite captivating. With the typical vocals and the instrumentation they create a recognizable style of their own. My favourite track would be Smokin' from Shootin'...

Snicolette: What? Nickie goes electronic? That's what I asked myself when the first track of Azam Ali started playing. Never heard of her either and you're taking us on an interesting trip into Persian electro and traditional folk (making me think a bit of some of Clannad, but than the Middle-Eastern version of them)... I like their particular mix of traditional instruments and electronics with the percussion. Each song is a very pleasant listen but I think a whole album would be a bit too ambient for me. Her Ode to Melancholy though is sheer beauty!

Logan: Now with Pram we arrive in other territories, more avant-garde and experimental. They have something intriguingly unsettling in their music. The squeeky dissonant violin in the first track puts me off a bit, but all the other tracks captivate me with their quite unique style: rythm, melodies, sounds and noises, the trumpet... The singer, she has something Hammill-like over her, which goes well with the music, actually. At some moments they also make me think of Gastr del Sol. Of these, Blue, the dreamy Serpentine and Penny Arcade are my preferred tracks. Very nice discovery overall!

The Anders: C.V. Jørgensen brings us into late 70s, early 80s pop-rock. I don't think I've ever heard something of him before but he too arrives to give an immediate familiarity to his music, in my ears. Very pleasant laid back songs regarding the music, but his lyrics go far beyond the conventional pop songs (thanks for giving us the translations! It is nice reading along with the songs). Although all songs here have very much of a pop(-rock) vibe to me, his singer/songwriter qualities put them above mainstream. This is typically music for me that I propably won't dive into, but when it comes by on the radio I would say "this sounds great, who is it?".

Edited by suitkees - November 29 2020 at 07:30

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